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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by fomine3 »

taneq wrote: post #248
Nextgrid wrote: post #211

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I suspect that a large part of this ad- and marketing-driven economy is based on this. The reason they predict their revenue will go up (which it will, at least in the short term until the market adjusts) is because they have a lot of customers already lined up to pay them to show ads on their TVs. Those customers' marketing departments decided to pay money to include their ads on TVs because a similar process was fo…

> The problem is that this "engagement" will mostly be just annoyed customers mis-clicking or trying whatever it takes to dismiss the ad and not actually intending to purchase the advertised product "Amazing! The smaller we make the 'X' button, the more people love them!"

We like slider control to set precise value because we click many time to set correct value, isn't it?

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Post by fomine3 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #829
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #597

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I worked in a store in the early 90s with the registers set up that way. It is so much more efficient to pick directly from a cart so you can plan the best sequence of items for bagging. The IBM scanners of the era were much faster and more reliable than today's garbage. You could blast through, pulling items out with the right hand, tossing into the left, and blind scanning while reaching for the next item.

Seems to be a common thread in the past 20 years. The ergonomics of the product is garbage now. Partly because more compute is put into them, and with it comes bloated software that seems to be written by people who don't understand that their avoidance of "premature optimization" is just stealing people's lives by making the work go slower.

Lack of interest for speed is the problem, not premature optimization.

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Post by fomine3 »

undebuggable wrote: post #195
fxtentacle wrote: post #84

... and that's exactly why my TV will never have an internet connection. By now, it doesn't really matter which brand you use. I have analyzed Samsung, Sony, LG and Philips and ALL of them send data about your usage to NetEase in China and ALL of them have ToS that say that they might record your voice and store it for improving their AI or whatever. Plus all of them shove suggested apps in your face, so I'd say it i…

> and that's exactly why my TV will never have an internet connection. That's increasingly difficult, e.g. HDMI offers ethernet communication. I also don't think salespeople care to be informed well enough on this feature. It seems that the last resort is digging through the user manuals found on the internet before the purchase.

I never found a device that supports HDMI Ethernet Channel. I'm really curious whether any device exists.

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Post by m45t3r »

dastx wrote: post #778
m45t3r wrote: post #492

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I never saw an ad with Chromecast, and I use it basically since it's inception.

Sure no ads, except they're still tracking you to display ads on their other platforms. YouTube included.

This maybe true, but Google Ads even on YouTube is way less invasive than Samsung ones. And BTW, YouTube Premium disable all ads, while there is no way to have a ad-free experience on Samsung.

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Post by tolbish »

JohnBooty wrote: post #942
tolbish wrote: post #941

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I am not talking about the demand for privacy, I am talking about the demand for dumb, inexpensive TVs. You are saying it is impossible to find a market that needs dumb, inexpensive TVs. But suppose all of those people saw an option for a cheaper TV that happened to be dumb. This line could even be sold by a major brand. Call it something like a "SimplySmart" line.

Ah, I see the misunderstanding. The "smart" functionality is how they achieve low prices. They subsidize the cost of the TV by selling your usage data. They may have deals with app providers as well - similar to how the price of a consumer laptop is subsidized by preloaded crapware.

Suppose we were onto something?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24666968

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Post by b112 »

Forbo wrote: post #882
canucker2016 wrote: post #580

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Some Samsung TVs already try and connect to open WiFi networks if you don't connect them yourself. see https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/bpr6xs/if_you_choo... My next idea - Faraday cages for smart TVs

You could always try disconnecting the antenna that goes to the wireless module instead.

Disconnect may not be enough, best is to wire a resistor in place of the antenna, of the same resistance of the antenna, which will shed the attempt to use the antenna as heat.

(I disconnected the antenna on my OnStar, yet found it still connecting to cell towers successfully from time to time. The resister solved that.)

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Post by flatiron »

JohnBooty wrote: post #218
flatiron wrote: post #197

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It’s TLS so I don’t know what it’s attempting to log but the highest blocked device in my house is the roku. I even have a Samsung TV (which I’ve never seen an ad on btw but I set it to boot directly to the HDMI port with the roku)

Is there any degraded functionality on the Roku if you block the logging?

Only thing I’ve noticed is the Home Screen ad location is a big grey box as opposed to an ad. I only use it for Plex and PBS Kids. Both apps work perfectly.

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Post by VHRanger »

potta_coffee wrote: post #858
VHRanger wrote: post #837

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I mean you can get a TV much like you get a computer monitor except bigger. That screen has no business connecting to the internet. Even better is a home projector.

Have an recommendations for a home projector setup? I have a really good space for a projector now but idk what I want.

I have the BenQ ht2050a and I like it. It's only 1080p but 16ms response times and 120hz make it good for gaming.

The color resolution is also great for movies.

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Post by potta_coffee »

VHRanger wrote: post #958
potta_coffee wrote: post #858

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Have an recommendations for a home projector setup? I have a really good space for a projector now but idk what I want.

I have the BenQ ht2050a and I like it. It's only 1080p but 16ms response times and 120hz make it good for gaming. The color resolution is also great for movies.

Thanks!

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Post by 72deluxe »

gpderetta wrote: post #877
72deluxe wrote: post #863

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No! I detest the dialog boxes that ask a question and then the only options are "Yes" or "Skip for now"/"Set up later". I want to confirm "No".

impossible, statistics show that 0% of customers chose "No" when not given a choice. Ergo you do not exist.

Those stats explain everything! It certainly sums up my experience on the modern web - awful and slow!
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