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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by chris_overseas »

ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

> judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well.

Google and Samsung might have something to say about this, with rumours of their own chip in the works:

https://www.axios.com/scoop-google-readies-its-own-chip-for-...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by lonelappde »

ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

20% faster single threaded doesn't matter. Websites aren't magically targeting the exact cpu power of your phone. Websites are 2x-10x too slow (and bloated, using up RAM and swapping), not 10%. this is a software problem not a hardware problem.

Even a tiny site like HN has problems on a phone when the comment count gets large

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by snazz »

lonelappde wrote: post #952
ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

20% faster single threaded doesn't matter. Websites aren't magically targeting the exact cpu power of your phone. Websites are 2x-10x too slow (and bloated, using up RAM and swapping), not 10%. this is a software problem not a hardware problem. Even a tiny site like HN has problems on a phone when the comment count gets large

Really? I'd argue that if any number of comments on HN bog down your phone, there's something wrong with it. The Axx processors even have JavaScript-specific instructions to accelerate web apps. iOS does not have swap. Compare the Speedometer 2.0 benchmark results between an iPhone 11 and a Pixel 4 in the middle of this page: https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/10/22/iphone-11-versus-...

There, the difference between the iPhone and Pixel is about 3x on that particular JavaScript and web benchmark.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by satyenr »

mettamage wrote: post #875
justinator wrote: post #858

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1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. I'm surprised about 1100+ comments, since this is, you know: just another phone

No it's not. The HN crowd has a vocal group of people who advocate for phones like the iPhone SE. The main complaint of this group is that other phones are too big. So a new release of the SE brings a lot of hope for extending that experience. The fact that this phone is bigger doesn't sit well with this vocal minority, because they want a small smartphone and now see that medium is the only available in stock. Expec…

You might want to look at Palm Phone — https://palm.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwhOD0BRAQEiwAK7JHmGrU18EVG1ha...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by [deleted] »

lonelappde wrote: post #952
ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

20% faster single threaded doesn't matter. Websites aren't magically targeting the exact cpu power of your phone. Websites are 2x-10x too slow (and bloated, using up RAM and swapping), not 10%. this is a software problem not a hardware problem. Even a tiny site like HN has problems on a phone when the comment count gets large

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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by [deleted] »

_lqaf wrote: post #319
yabatopia wrote: post #268

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> I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. There are plenty of compact and competent phones. A Samsung A40 for example is barely larger than this new iPhone SE, but has a 5.9 inch display. A friend wanted a smallish smartphone and she's quiet happy with the form factor.

> has a 5.9 inch display That is not a compact phone. I know I'm in the minority here, but the iPhone4, in my view, was the ideal form factor (3.5", I think). At least half of the time I glance at my phone, the informational payload is not even a full sentence and requires no interaction. Otherwise, I check mail and sometimes use maps. More or less, my phone occupies the niche that I'm supposed to want a digital watc…

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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by markphip »

I am still holding out hope for a 4.7" phone that is all screen and supports Face ID. Maybe the next iPhone SE in 4 more years will be that phone.

I imagine they could not produce that phone at this price point .. which is quite good for what you are getting.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by lettergram »

ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

Also 4.7” (I believe) is a diagonal, the actual dimensions are closer to 4” long because the screen comes nearly to the edge.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by alpaca128 »

reanimated wrote: post #918
szatkus wrote: post #904

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$399 isn't really entry-level.

In iPhone line of products - it is. It's a cheapest entry level iPhone now.

My current phone cost half as much and is by far the best-performing smartphone I've ever owned.

No, I don't get why I'm supposed to pay double for iOS. Then again I don't see any smartphone on the market that I'd actually pay a premium price for. They're all not quite convincing to me.

Also, $399 is not entry level compared to the first generations of the iPhone, which was already not considered cheap. I'm not a fan of this severe price drift.

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