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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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As a developer and—I think—power user, I use Firefox without issue. What developer tools available in chrome but not firefox?

PHPStorm IDE Support, Netbeans Connector are both only available for Chrome. Not a game changer but it certainly makes using Firefox less convenient.

Check out browsersync if you want some of that functionality with any browser.

https://www.browsersync.io/

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Widevine works with Firefox. Why couldn't it with Chromium?

You have to license it from Google. And they don't always say yes: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/04/03/googles_widevine_dr...

That's only if you are making a browser and want to distribute it. There's no way that Google is going to mail howlers to end-users who use widevine with chromium forks.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

Extensions. Safari has almost none of them and I need them. And not just uBO. I have 10+ of them install and I'd say 8 of them are mandatory for me. I don't care about Safari being the fastest or battery life. Also dev tools are so much better in Fx and Chrome...

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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

I also use safari as my main browser. When there is the rare case when a site malfunctions (not so rare anyways... sheesh its like IE all over again) I have brave-browser pulled from brew.

I’ve tried chrome in the past but it installed some sort of GoogleUpdater daemon without permission and I absolutely hate that. The same reason I don’t install MSOffice on my machines. If a desktop application needs a background service for wathever reason I don’t want it anywhere near my computers.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I suggest that we instead switch to Pale Moon. Whatever you might feel about Moonchild, the browser is solid and reliable. All it really could benefit from would be a wider add-on dev community.

What would be the benefit of doing this?

I'm on mobile, so it's not going to be as verbose as usual. In no particular order:

Moving away from large corps, breaking up the homogeny of the web, keeping XUL alive, having a browser focused on the end UX rather than the UI and the corp needs, and having add-ons that can actually affect the browser - not the little playground Google thinks will be profitable.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Is there any actual difference between the two beyond UI and sync? From what I understand they're both safari underneath?

I think you meant iOS WebKit for rendering rather than Safari. Firefox iOS uses WebKit while it used to use Gecko. I seem to remember speed being a difference. It’s been awhile. I also switched from gmail to outlook because gmail was using headers and footers for ads which was annoying on a 4” SE.

>while it used to use Gecko

How was it ever permitted to use Gecko underneath? Have the iOS app rules changed in recent years? Did they used to be more permissive?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Google will keep locking down Chrome and using corporate talk to hand wave it away, only recourse is to leave. First it’s “sign in” with obtuse ways to turn it off. Then block Adblocking, once again with obtuse ways to disable... the end goal is pretty obvious, get the majority of Chrome users to turn on ads and tie their real names to their Chrome browser. Of course let “power users” (who’ll turn that crap off anywa…

It's a shame Microsoft didn't want to use Firefox's codebase instead of Chromium for its new Edge browser. I don't know what Microsoft thinks it gained by doing this, but I'm almost certain they'll regret it in the long run, because it's a trap by Google. Google, Microsoft new "bestie" in this collaboration, will screw them over once it's clear that Microsoft "can't turn back" from using Chromium or even fork it.

That would be declaring a full on browser war with Google. I expect MS don't want to do that yet. It remains an option in the future I suppose.

As I understand it Chromium is a lot easier to wrap your own GUI around than Gecko. XUL is still not completely decoupled, separating them completely is an ongoing effort I think.

Maybe when the embedded Gecko/Servo engine is production ready would be the time for MS to reconsider.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Not everyone is understanding what you're saying, as evident by the downvotes you're getting Well also I'd like the address bar to be a fucking address bar and not an address-but-sometimes-search bar.

How does the tab-to-search feature in Chrome negatively affect how you use the address bar? Are you entering URLs with tabs in them?

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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I switched a couple of months ago because Chrome is just a bloated piece of garbage. One of my favorite features in Firefox is containers, which I used to have different users for in Chrome. Maybe Chrome has something similar now but it's one of the things I liked when I switched over. Haven't had any issues so far, glad I did

I wouldn't call Firefox bloat-free with things like Pocket integration. But yes, it's an awesome browser anyways!

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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What would be the benefit of doing this?

I'm on mobile, so it's not going to be as verbose as usual. In no particular order: Moving away from large corps, breaking up the homogeny of the web, keeping XUL alive, having a browser focused on the end UX rather than the UI and the corp needs, and having add-ons that can actually affect the browser - not the little playground Google thinks will be profitable.

I understand perfectly the need to switch from Chrome, as I've only ever used Firefox. What I meant was to understand the difference between Firefox and this browser (other than the point of breaking up homogeneity, which I agree is a great thing overall)
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