Man, they're just worried about their bottom line
Our position on open-weights models
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Re: Our position on open-weights models
#942I feel like this whole discussion boils down to one question (as commonly when considering political issues) : do we want a framework that favors progress globally for everyone, or do we want to ensure superiority of some above the others ?
Sure that's simplistic, but human behavior is not that complex, there are a few basic needs and wants that drive everything. In that specific case, those currently in a dominating position (Anthropic, the US) want to put hurdles (regulations) to make it more difficult for others to catch up, and everyone else want to join forces to overtake them.
Re: Our position on open-weights models
#943For smart Chinese hired by anthropic, are you still proud working there?
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#945I thought his points were legitimate and well argued. I think that it's very easy to say "X should be unrestricted". I also think that eventually one of these models will be used to do something truly destructive and insane and that some level of "compelled responsibility" to the open-weight model ecosystem is inevitable.
So we should restrict chainsaws and excavators?
We are not talking about chainsaws and excavators, we are talking about LLMs. LLMs have different risks in terms of scale and kind and must be considered differently.
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#946Ban distillation of our outputs, but our distillation of the sum-total of civilisation's intellectual output – proprietary or otherwise – is fair use? Either everyone licenses, or nobody does. And if you can't enforce licensing bans for everyone, the de-facto loser is those who you'd probably want to support the most, start-ups and universities, while your adversaries gain the upper hand. The strongest argument for r…
The anti-distillation attitude in making the US less competitive in AI. As Meta, X.ai, etc know they'll face legal challenges if they did what Moonshot, etc did.
So really its actively against our interests to prevent distillation.
Re: Our position on open-weights models
#947I don't trust you Dario, that's the issue here
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#948Fascist/liar.
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#949Every single risk he identifies as a concern regarding China is exactly my concerns with the US having absolute control. Literally the exact same concerns
It was the same thing with TikTok, wasn't it?
It's bad for TikTok to be controlled by a Chinese company because Americans access it. The solution is to make it US-controlled. The rest of the world? Who cares.
Re: Our position on open-weights models
#950Every single risk he identifies as a concern regarding China is exactly my concerns with the US having absolute control. Literally the exact same concerns
same concerns? why?
china is not a warmongering nation like the usa.
80% of people in their 30's own their own house.
an ambulance doesn't cost an arm.
etc
dǎdǎo imperialism, wànsuì the people's revolution!