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Claude Fable 5
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Re: Claude Fable 5
#942I've spent some time with Fable, and it is really good, definitely a step change from Opus 4.8, both for coding and general chat-style discussions. The vibes are incredible. There is an ease with which it solves problems and I've tested by replicating older chats in Fable - things that the older models found after 5-6 turns, Fable surfaces in the first response. It just gets things.
Apart from all the above: the fact that they are intentionally writing this (that they degrade frontier LLM dev, silently vs loudly for biology/cybersecurity) in the system card is interesting to say the least - especially just before IPO.
Notice that with this statement - that they're going to intentionally hobble the model for frontier LLM development - the general discussion has moved from, “Is the model actually that good?” to "they’re pulling the ladder up from behind them"
That's actually super smart - wonder if Mythos (or the next unreleased model) had a say in coming up with that strategy (if it's intentional). Also - having access to extremely capable models before anyone else - which they have by default - is a incredibly advantageous position to be in.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#943I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
Do you understand that, for 10-20k a month, you can hire 1-2 senior engineers AND give them Claude subscriptions?
why would you expose to a company what are you working on, in what way and on what research?
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#944I can’t help but think that there are so many astroturfed comments in here. Seems like a concerted and distributed effort from the entire Anthropic team every time to get this on top of HN.
I don't think it's weird that the post made it to the front page, but watching the downvotes roll in on my own mildly critical comment has been intriguing. I saw it go up to +2, down to 0, up to +3, and now it's on +1.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#945its good for difficult problems, bad for design and code gen
Re: Claude Fable 5
#946I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
Eventually solving for cost is a much easier problem than solving coding.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#947From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost. On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits. If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this…
Or maybe its all about compute availability like they say. It could be that they plan to start training a new model on the 22ed, so the amount of compute available for inference will be greatly reduced.
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Re: Claude Fable 5
#949After a day or so this is the first model that really feels next level compared to how Opus 4.5 felt on release
Re: Claude Fable 5
#950I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
> So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates
That's enough to buy a house in my country...