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Re: Googlebook

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Post by prepend »

reisse wrote: post #907

I see the vision here, which the top commenters (sorry, couldn't read all of them) seems to miss. This should be a moonshot bet on the next generation of user experience. People are complaining about apps, but the idea here should be to make apps irrelevant as a concept. You don't need "apps", you need data feedable to LLM and a visualization toolkit for presenting results. And maybe some tools to manually wrangle th…

> On paper, this sounds amazing. Like "out of sci-fi books" amazing.

How does this sound amazing? What about the specs amaze you?

This seems like every laptop currently made with a browser open to chatgpt/claude/gemini.

How much does this cost? What’s the local compute?

Isn’t the best AI laptop just a $600 Neo? I’m not sure how this is superior and I just read a whole web page about it.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by joemazerino »

isityettime wrote: post #931
reisse wrote: post #907

I see the vision here, which the top commenters (sorry, couldn't read all of them) seems to miss. This should be a moonshot bet on the next generation of user experience. People are complaining about apps, but the idea here should be to make apps irrelevant as a concept. You don't need "apps", you need data feedable to LLM and a visualization toolkit for presenting results. And maybe some tools to manually wrangle th…

I can't get Gemini to not cut me off mid-sentence and reply to only half of what I wanted to say. It doesn't reliably integrate with Google Maps. I can't trust it for basic shopping tasks because it doesn't reliably evaluate stated criteria. I can't even ask it if a specific web store has a specific item in stock and trust the answer. Google hasn't gotten the bare-ass basics right. They're not about to "make apps irr…

This product is exactly how Google improves Gemini. For better or worse (I'd argue worse) Google will be putting these devices in classrooms and everywhere else to train Gemini.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by prepend »

yabatopia wrote: post #871
Kadecgos wrote: post #402

So, I'm only slightly trying to be a smartass here, but... Who is this for? They are marketing what is ostensibly a computer for people who seem to not want to use a computer in scenarios that I don't think even exist. Beyond that, this is a laptop that is running a really shitty, 'apps only, no you cannot do anything useful with this' operating system. I have an awful lot of complaints about MacOS's relatively restr…

Without pricing information, it’s hard to the question "who is this for?". Below $500? Same as the cheap Chromebooks market. Around $700? (Or $600 educational) Direct competitor to Macbook Neo, educational market and the middle of the road laptop market. Above $900? No idea, maybe for Google Platform die-hards.

I don’t get why anyone would price a Neo competitor higher than a Neo.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by prepend »

izacus wrote: post #889
yabatopia wrote: post #871

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without pricing information, it’s hard to the question "who is this for?". Below $500? Same as the cheap Chromebooks market. Around $700? (Or $600 educational) Direct competitor to Macbook Neo, educational market and the middle of the road laptop market. Above $900? No idea, maybe for Google Platform die-hards.

> Above $900? No idea, maybe for Google Platform die-hards. Managed corporate machines. I've worked with all platforms and managing ChromeOS is massively, massively easier than MacOS or Windows.

I’ve never encountered a company that used ChromeOS.

Closest was some teacher friends who had Chromebooks for their students, but they’ve all switched to Lenovo or Apple.

I don’t think I’d work for a company that made me use a Chromebook. (I prefer a company that lets me choose my own tools).

Re: Googlebook

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

vovavili wrote: post #925
reisse wrote: post #907

I see the vision here, which the top commenters (sorry, couldn't read all of them) seems to miss. This should be a moonshot bet on the next generation of user experience. People are complaining about apps, but the idea here should be to make apps irrelevant as a concept. You don't need "apps", you need data feedable to LLM and a visualization toolkit for presenting results. And maybe some tools to manually wrangle th…

I would be curious to see how OpenAI or Anthropic would implement this vision without the inertia of a ~200,000 person company and with all the enormous brain gain these two companies now have. A Linux-based, LLM-native phone/laptop hybrid is pretty close to being my personal dream consumer device.

Can I somehow strip out the LLM-native part and just have a polished Linux-based mobile device, without someone trying to control what I run on it? Because that would be my personal dream.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by drcode »

grey-area wrote: post #797
drcode wrote: post #660

Earlier quoted context omitted.

every large corporation is going to come out with a hardware device in the next 12 months where you don't directly use applications, where the AI acts as an intermediary openai, anthropic, meta, google, all of them even you will want one of these devices, probably (not saying this is a positive development in the world)

And every one of these ‘AI first’ laptops will be cancelled in a couple of years when generative AI is no longer the hot new thing and end users realise its severe limitations.

I hope you're right, it would be better for the world if you are

but that's probably not what's going to happen

Re: Googlebook

#947

Post by LastTrain »

ulimn wrote: post #921
rkozik1989 wrote: post #916

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot the part where average consumers kind of hate AI and won't buy this or use that feature because of its AI.

I'm not sure about that. The "normies" around me love AI. My mother and mother-in-law drive me crazy when I ask for advice and they copy the answer directly from ChatGPT. Not to mention the stupid images generated by AI.

I’m not sure what you mean by “normies” - non technical people? I don’t know a single person who /loves/ AI. I know some that speculate about potential benefits. I know some that use it begrudgingly. Some that have some anecdotes of it being useful but mostly couched in dread. Almost universal is the feeling that it is being forced on them in ways they do not want. Who loves it?

Re: Googlebook

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Post by Peroni »

nailer wrote: post #935
Peroni wrote: post #877

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Please get rid of that top panel.... This is just bad UX. How so? It displays useful info at a glance. Where's the bad UX?

Read the sentence before the fragment you quoted: > in macos it is menu bar that host app menus but that concept doesn't exists in these other desktops and yet they have a top panel

Yeah I read it but it doesn't help me understand why it's considered bad UX, hence why I asked for clarification.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by voidmain0001 »

voidmain0001 wrote: post #244

Does it use ChromeOS or Android? I read an unreliable comment in Reddit that Google may be forced to sell ChromeOS to satisfy antitrust lawsuit. The comment provided zero evidence for the conjecture.

I'll answer myself with a Reddit post that states it's not ChromeOS. https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/1tb9xbp/this_is_g...

Re: Googlebook

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Post by 0xWTF »

I love the mix of MacBook Pro and Asus-style renders. Nothing says care and attention to detail like mixing renders in the same advert.
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