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So you’re taking from others who earned it and give it someone that didn’t? Got it.
This is what capitalists literally do with workers. It's not like capitalists are creating anything valuable, they're just leeches extracting wealth. I rather have workers get the money than more corporate welfare.
Poland is now among the 20 largest economies
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Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies
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> It's not like capitalists are creating anything valuable, Some capitalists create enormous value, some destroy it, some are essentially passive recipients of returns generated by others. Capitalists provide real productive functions like capital allocation, risk-bearing, founding, governance, monitoring, etc.
No capitalists just provide money, something other entities can as well. Often better too. Capitalists are completely useless when they have no workers, so I don't understand your points outside of "wow capitalists require a lot of workers to exist." Hence the rush towards LLM systems, the dream of perpetual labor machine is too enticing. There is also no risks for capitalists, do we live on the same planet where the…
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It’s still nothing compared to the other things I mentioned.
Nothin. Like selling (for bribes) Visas to Africans while simultaneously using same Africans to ferment anti immigration sentiment in its own electorate. Like selling huge amount of Orlen assets to Saudis (no doubt huge bribe). Covid respirators and masks scams, not to mention covid bribes. Koreans are also pretty famous for giving bribes and there has been a ton of shenanigans with military contracts including delay…
Part of Orlen was sold to the Saudis to merge Orlen and Lotos (the exchange of gas stations with MOL was done for similar reasons) and to get better access to Saudi oil.
"Covid bribes" etc are probably mostly fake stories from Onet as well.
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I'm curious what this means in real terms from the perspective of a Pole. GDP/capita is often a relatively useless metric in modern times. For instance Ireland has one of the highest GDP/capitas in the world -- around 50% higher than the US. But that's because of economic games with their working as a tax haven to enable corporations to avoid paying taxes to their home countries. It doesn't translate to anything for…
I'm Irish. Well northern Irish. The Republic Ireland seems a lot richer than when I was growing up in n. Ireland. Ireland is the second biggest exporter of software in the world now. I'm pretty certain the tax paid by both corporations and their well paid staff definitely translate to something for the average Irish man. Even if he thinks it doesn't.
There are more people in single 2nd tier city metro areas in other European countries than in the whole of Ireland.