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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by kid64 »

dmix wrote: post #859
singularity2001 wrote: post #689

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought cursor became mostly obsolete with Claude Code and Codex TUIs?

The solution is use both. They both have their usecases. Cursor's autocomplete and quickly highlight a few lines -> throw into context, plus it's got a very good file index/API (which burns much less tokens than Claude's grep'ing) and whatever else they are doing underneath to optimize it for coding. Claude is still gold standard if you're not in an IDE though.

Grep'ing doesn't use tokens, it uses grep.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by MintPaw »

zzleeper wrote: post #19

I'm sworn off from Musk-related products, and this will prob make cursor worse (switch to X's LLM for instance). So, any suggestions for switching? Codex; Claude Code? (I like my IDE and I like the freedom to choose a model, which is why I stuck with Cursor even when it felt more expensive)

Everyone talks badly about Cursor and it is kinda a piece of junk, but no, there's nothing that has the features of: being able to see agent diffs in an editor, seeing diffs inline in chat, be able to click them to jump to the code, and being able to click old chat messages to edit/fork them.

Those are basically my only requirements, and it feels like I've tried everything and they're all everything only has 1 of those features. Zed is the closest, it technically has those features, they're just buggy and have provider specific quirks.

So I'm stuck on Cursor until Anthropic invents IDE technology, or at least VS Code wrapper technology.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by kristopolous »

nubg wrote: post #513
kristopolous wrote: post #105

Wish I played that interview game better. I saw the success coming from a mile away (2022) but I can't vibe with people in the hire game right. It's like eye contact, smiling, facial expressions, stuff like that. I guess there's a bunch of tools to not suck at this. Anyone had success here? The AI tools say I'm great because they can't pick up the kind of problems I'm talking about.

What exactly did you predict in 2022?

I can call the winners but then I go with the losers

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by dubeye »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #938
dubeye wrote: post #674

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Because of user count? Same was said about instagram. with all due respect, devs don't seem to understand business

Are you using the same AI engineering tools you were using 2-3 years ago? 1 year ago? I'm not. Without a network effect, capturing revenue is hard.

My use is not relevant. It's not ideal to extrapolate from your own personal habits. cursor's user volume and growth is the important thing

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by ej88 »

necovek wrote: post #579
goosejuice wrote: post #176

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$1B to $2B ARR in a few months with projection of $6B ARR by years end. If xAi wants to have it's own tools just like OpenAI and Anthropic, then it's not an unusual move.

Extrapolating from a few months to a full year and calling it Annual Recurring Revenue is one of modern startup valuation gimmicks that I cannot not laugh at. Sometimes it helps to go back to the basics to understand company performance: money in, money out?

in these cases arr = annual run rate, commonly used when your revenue is either going vertical (cursor - good) or your revenue is choppy and full of short term projects (mercor - bad)

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by ornornor »

handfuloflight wrote: post #869
Forgeties79 wrote: post #830

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It can’t be that hard for you to think of something digital that you (don’t) own and how you would feel if a comparable situation happened to you. A TOS isn’t some magical shield from legitimate complaints and scrutiny any more than “it’s the law” makes something morally right.

One should know what contracts one is entering into.

But of course, one reads all of the ToS of every service one uses. It’s just something one does.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by 3836293648 »

foo42 wrote: post #620
3836293648 wrote: post #374

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That's not British, that's just old people

apparently it is a British thing. https://editorsmanual.com/articles/collective-nouns-singular...

No, I'm claiming your source is outdated. It has become an old people thing now

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by solarkraft »

NorwegianDude wrote: post #574
solarkraft wrote: post #501

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> Cursor still has a lot of developer data that can assist in building a model Their composer model is seriously good. I’ve been eyeing a cursor sub just to use it in OpenCode. They have a nice moat here. > Cursor have decent enterprise relationships (while for xAI it is ~zero) That has a reason. Those enterprise relationships are almost certainly going to sour at least a bit, if not for Musk‘s toxic image then for h…

Just to point it out, Cursor has not made any good models themselves. Composer 2 is Kimi K2.5, and they tried to pass it as their own until people noticed that the api specified it as Kimi.

I’ve tried Kimi a bit (not much to be fair) and didn’t find it to be that great. Composer feels more „real world“ capable to me, which is not a big surprise since Cursor has all the data to tune it.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by Forgeties79 »

handfuloflight wrote: post #869
Forgeties79 wrote: post #830

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can’t be that hard for you to think of something digital that you (don’t) own and how you would feel if a comparable situation happened to you. A TOS isn’t some magical shield from legitimate complaints and scrutiny any more than “it’s the law” makes something morally right.

One should know what contracts one is entering into.

These responses strike me as unserious and flippant. You’d never accept these responses if it happened to you with something you care about.

Also, comparing a TOS to a formal contract by two parties is a bit disingenuous. A classic “yes it’s technically true” situation. TOS’s are not treated the same way as a signed and dated formal contract. Not even by companies putting them up. They are lower stakes and often pages and pages of legalese that you also skip over at times.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by qingcharles »

DeathArrow wrote: post #934
garganzol wrote: post #740

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For Enterprises it's way easier to delist Cursor from the list of used tools than to have a relation with someone known publicly for neofascist aspirations. xAI is not, and was not that bad, it's just everybody ignores it for anything serious due to obvious reasons.

I am not, I have a Grok subscription and I find Grok genuinely useful.

I hate Musk, but Grok is not a bad LLM. It's very useful for tracking down old magazines that I'm looking for, which are public domain or copyright orphans. Often the major players will outright reject searching places like archive.org as they immediately assume you are trying to commit some level of copyright infringement. With Grok it'll either just do it, or do it with a mild prod or jailbreak.
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