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Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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This makes me a very happy Claude Max subscriber. Finally, someone of consequence not kissing the ring. I hope this gives others courage to do the same.

this article is _about_ kissing the ring and damage control. Are you seriously believing at face value? You're ok with spying non us peaceful citizens?

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#942
post #700

I used to work at Anthropic, and I wrote a comment on a thread earlier this week about the RSP update [1]. It's enheartening to see that leaders at Anthropic are willing to risk losing their seat at the table to be guided by values. Something I don't think is well understood on HN is how driven by ideals many folks at Anthropic are, even if the company is pragmatic about achieving their goals. I have strong signal th…

> Something I don't think is well understood on HN is how driven by ideals many folks at Anthropic are After 20 years of everyone in this industry saying "we want to make the world a better place" and doing the opposite, the problem here is not really related to people's "understanding". And before the default answer kicks in: this is not cynicism. Plenty of folks here on HN and elsewhere legitimately believe that it…

I don't think it's cynical to believe that a company can make the world a worse place, or that Anthropic as a company will make many horrible choices.

I do think it's cynical to believe that people, and groups of people, can't be motivated by more than money.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#943

This is such a depressing read. What is becoming of the USA? Let's hope sanity prevails and the next election cycle can bring in some competent non-grievance based leadership.

What do you mean? You think any company should do whatever the government tells them?

Not at all. It's a depressing read because the US Government is doing such things that would have been considered insane before 2016.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#944

Brother in law did some "time with the brass" as he calls it. His take was that the DOD, er DOW would, as an example, never acquire a fighter jet that "wouldn't target and kill a civilian airliner", citing that on 9/11 we literally almost did that. The DOW is acquiring instruments of war, which is probably unconformable for a lot of people to consider. His conclusion was that the limits of use ought to be contractual…

lol so you think expecting the pentagon to follow a pinky swear is ok? Preposterous or downright dishonest

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#945

I used to work at Anthropic, and I wrote a comment on a thread earlier this week about the RSP update [1]. It's enheartening to see that leaders at Anthropic are willing to risk losing their seat at the table to be guided by values. Something I don't think is well understood on HN is how driven by ideals many folks at Anthropic are, even if the company is pragmatic about achieving their goals. I have strong signal th…

you're suffering from Stockholm syndrome

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Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#946

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the signatories attributing their names and titles, that should be respected to put your reputation on the line. It means something. As for the others who are signing 'anonymous', this is meaningless. Either sign or don't. I would suggest removing that as an option.

Then you would get zero H1B and, frankly, green card signatures. There is real risk and real dependents at stake, I understand people who can't in good conscience put that at risk.

Why should anyone at the Department of War or the general public care what non-citizen employees of these companies think?

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#947

As someone who is potentially their client and not domestic , really reassuring that they have no concerns with mass spying peaceful citizens of my particular corner of the world.

Take your pick from the many other choices offered by companies that don't care about mass spying on _anyone_.

Have a look at https://thaura.ai.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#949
While it's good that they didn't fold, they didn't need to lick the boot that hard. So much spent on "we love the US and democracy and hate communism and the Chinese." They are trying really hard to keep this contract as is, which I think says more than folding to these additional demands.
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