It's hard not to be jealous. What he did is incredible, he grabbed attention of the tech community like no other...however good or bad he was at it and making it secure. He was curious and experimental and got lucky!
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#942I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…
I mean some might say that's like joining a sinking ship. Of course one man's trash is another man's treasure. To each their own.
Hiring in tech has been broken for many many years at this point. There's so much noise and only more noise coming now with AI. To be completely honest it's entire random from my end when hiring. We can't review every application that comes in. It's just impossible. We do weed out some of the spam of course and do get to real people that actually fit the requirements, but there's so many other talented people who would easily fit the role that simple get buried under applications. It's depressing from all sides here. No one should think that they aren't any good or did something wrong or didn't network enough... because the unfortunate truth is that getting a job in tech is a lottery. Something many don't want to admit.
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The guy has a long history of building popular products, long before vibe coding became possible. He is certainly good at writing code manually as well.
I genuinely think people on HN are having the misconception that vibe coding == don’t care about (the quality of) the code. I like to think it’s the same as delegating implementation to someone else.
Except there are literally people on this thread saying that this is proof that code quality doesn't matter and that we all need to "wake up". It's the same as the people saying that spec driven development is the way of the future and that engineers should be focusing on the spec and not even looking at the code.
If you use LLMs and you do care about code quality, then great. But remember that the term vibe coding as it was coined originally meant blindly accepting coding agent suggestions without even reviewing the diffs.
Many of the people aggressively pushing AI use in code are doing so because they care more about delivery products quickly then they do about the software's performance, security, and long-term maintainability. This is why many of us are pushing back against the technology.
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But that's the point it's not defeatist. It's more about saying there is something for you to do. There is a role for you to play but that's not necessarily the role that you see somebody else playing. So sometimes we see somebody else doing something and we think whoa that person is successful and we become envious of that and then we want to emulate that. But we forget that maybe that's not what's intended for us.…
Appreciate your take. I think we’re bouncing around the same mental state from different sides. I do not believe in predetermined roles. My version is to find the thing you’re excited to do and not the outcome you’re excited to have.
What if the thing that excites you can't pay you money, and you find your overall life unsatisfying because of the things you have to do to earn money?
Sorry, went a bit off rails there.
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pi is the most amazing piece of software I have interacted with, thanks for building it
Can you explain why for someone who is just familiar with traditional agents like Claude Code?
For me it is the simplicity of it (transparent minimal system prompts and harnest), you can extend it the way you like, I don't have to install a (buggy) Electron app (CC or Codex app), it integrates where I work, because it's simple (like in a standard terminal on VS code). I'm not locked in with any vendor and can switch models whenever I want, and most importantly, I can effectively use it within apps that are themselves using it as coding agent (the meta part - like a chat UI for very specific business cases). Being in TypeScript, it integrates very well with the browser and one can leverage the browser sandbox around it.
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#947Peter is not a vibe coder. He build/code and sold a company way before LLMs. a lot of comments here seem to so fix on him being a "vibe coder"
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#948I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…
It's funny to me how still so many don't realize you don't get hired for the best positions for being a 10x programmer who excels at hackerrank, you get hired for your proven ability to deliver useful products. Creativity, drive, vision, whatever. Code is a means to an end. If you're the type of programmer who thinks of yourself as just a programmer, and take pride in your secure code, ability to optimize functions a…
> you get hired for your proven ability to deliver useful products.
Ah, right. Write "Brew", which gets used by thousands of devs at Google every day, and then get rejected in an interview.
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As an experiment, I set it up with a z.ai $3/month subscription and told it to do a tedious technical task. I said to stay busy and that I expect no more than 30 minutes of inactivity, ever. The task is to decompile Wave Race 64 and integrate with libultraship and eventually produce a runnable native port of the game. (Same approach as the Zelda OoT port Ship of Harkinian). It set up a timer ever 30 minutes to check…
So, you don't know if it has produced anything valuable yet?
Yeah I'm not sure I understand what the goal here is. Ship of Harkinian is a rewrite not just a decompilation. As a human reverse engineer I've gotten a lot of false positives.This seems like one of those areas where hallucinations could be really insidious and hard to identify, especially for a non-expert. I've found MCP to be helpful with a lot of drudgery, but I think you would have to review the llm output, do extensive debugging/dynamic analysis, triage all potential false positives, before attempting to embark on a rewrite based on decompiled assembly... I think OoT took a team of experts collectively thousands of person-hours to fully document, it seems a bit too hopeful to want that and a rewrite just from being pushy to an agent...
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#950Congrats! can you tell me how I can also be get hired in such companies. I have 3 years of experience.
Hahaha
Join us in the wait list, mate. In the meantime, maybe we could make a whole community and try to make our own start-ups.