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Found the guy who supports digital ID and involuntary phone database scanning
Found the cheese pizza enjoyer.
HN is capable of a better discussion without personal attacks.
X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
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> When did we accept, "Users are doing the scamming, not the company" as an excuse? Section 230. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230 As always, Washington doing the hard work of making sure corpos never need to fix anything, ever.
A sincere thank you, for providing me with the exact section of law that I disagree with.
Happy to help!
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Unlike the current American administration who condones raids on homes without warrants and justifies violence with lies, this France raid follows something called rule of law. So no, don't be coy and pretend that all governments are like American institutions.
>Unlike the current American administration who condones raids on homes without warrants and justifies violence with lies, this France raid follows something called rule of law. Iffy on that front, actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_and_indictment_of_Pavel...
There was a warrant. He was arrested and prosecuted, is being investigated, and will be judged in a court of law. This is rule of law.
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My natural reaction here is like I think most others; that yes Grok / X bad, shouldn't be able to generate CSAM content / deepfakes. But I am having trouble justifying in an consistent manner why Grok / X should be liable here instead of the user. I've seen a few arguments here that mostly comes down to: 1. It's Grok the LLM generating the content, not the user. 2. The distribution. That this isn't just on the user's…
> But I am having trouble justifying in an consistent manner why Grok / X should be liable here instead of the user. Because Grok and X aren't even doing the most basic filtering they could do to pretend to filter out CSAM.
Filtering on the platform or Grok output though? If the filtering / flagging on X is insufficient then that is a separate issue independent of Grok. If filtering output of Grok, while irresponsible in my view, I don’t see why that’s different from say photoshop not filtering its output.
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de Gaulle would be considered insanely far right today. Many aspects of Bush (assuming GW here) would be considered not in line with America's far-right today. Assume good intent. It helps you see the actually interesting point being made.
No one can assume good intent with such question, at best it's bait. But then again people on this very forum will argue Sanders is a literal communist so we circle back to the sub 70iq problem
Idk I see a bunch of great commentary in response. Noted that I should not assume good intent from you.
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Most enterprises have fully encrypted workstations, when they don't use VM where the desktop is just a thin client that doesn't store any data. So there should be really nothing of interest in the office itself.
French has a password disclosure law.
Even if you seize the workstation and obtain the password, the files are unlikely to be stored locally.
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I guess he could just never enter the EU ever again. Maybe he can buy Little St. James.
and count on Trump to disrespect the extradition treaties. Which might be a reasonable expectation, but will have consequences, and Trump might not hold power forever.
I mean at this point, with a trillion dollars, apparently, why not just buy a small nation.
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Naked kid pictures intended for sexual gratification are illegal in most countries
Hard to know the intent of a picture in most cases. E.g. there used to be a magazine for teens when I grew up showing a picture of a naked adolescent of each sex in every edition (Bravo Dr Sommer). The intent was to educate teens and to make them feel less ashamed. I bet there were people who used these for sexual gratification. Should that have been a reason to ban them? I don't think so.
Educational nudity where the subject consented possible for teenagers over 16 in Germany (and the publication complied with the law) is not the same category as CSAM or non-consensual sexual imagery. In the former, misuse by a minority doesn’t automatically make the publication illegal. In the latter, the harm is intrinsic: a child cannot legally consent, and non-consensual sexual images are a direct rights violation.
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More to the point, now that most productions are using intimacy coordinators, there's a degree of certainty around the consent of R-rated images. There's basically no consent with what Grok is doing.
> There's basically no consent with what Grok is doing. Wait how do you get consent from people that don't exist?
AI fake nudes were made from very real and very alive people