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Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

leakycap wrote: post #90
frogblast wrote: post #80

IMO the problem is that H1B employees are stuck at the employer for the duration of their green card process, and so end up both paid lower and unable to escape abuse. I think a very high application fee is actually part of a good solution, but is useless by itself. A flawed proposal: * Dispense with the 'need to search for a qualified American' which just complicates the process without achieving the stated goal, an…

No company would ever sponsor someone if the last bullet is part of the deal. You're just killing the visa program another way with that wishlist item alone.

Then kill it.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by [deleted] »

geye1234 wrote: post #930
guyzero wrote: post #248

Everyone in these threads always points out all sorts of issues with the H1B system, which are mostly true, but it's not like there's a suggestion for a replacement here. This is a de facto shutdown of the program, not a reform. I'd be happy to see a reformed skilled immigration program for the US, but this isn't it. The US makes up about 4.5% of the global population and it seems silly to think that the FAANG compan…

> The only effect this is going to have is accelerating the offshoring of jobs through more hiring in India, Europe and Canada, which is a net loss for the US. Offshoring can, and ought to be, heavily tariffed.

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 »

freetime2 wrote: post #649
bhouston wrote: post #531

This is actually smart. Many H1B visas are used to undermine fair labor wages for already local talent. We should ensure that H1B visas are for actual unique talent and not just to undercut local wages. H1B is ripe with abuse - this article by Bloomberg says that half of all H1-B visas are used by Indian staffing firms that pay significantly lower than the US laborers they are replacing: - https://www.bloomberg.com/g…

I believe that the United States has long benefited from being able to attract talented people from other countries. They pay taxes, they participate in the economy, and they make the US more innovative and competitive in the world. If there are abuses, then let’s fix them. But this is too heavy handed, and may have an impact on US competitiveness for generations to come.

Is it really? Given the current salaries for AI talent ( or whatever future most desired skill sets are ), 100k seems like a decent enough spot to do the following:

- keep the program limited to what it was intended to do ( bring in the best people in, keep US competitive -- on tech, not on low wages ) - keep populace in a state, where they don't see a reason for a leadership change

Unless, of course, that is not what the program is used for ( and anecdotally, that take does not seem that far fetched ).

So my overall response is: good. Frankly, this made Trump's election worth it.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by remarkEon »

kristopolous wrote: post #797
guyzero wrote: post #248

Everyone in these threads always points out all sorts of issues with the H1B system, which are mostly true, but it's not like there's a suggestion for a replacement here. This is a de facto shutdown of the program, not a reform. I'd be happy to see a reformed skilled immigration program for the US, but this isn't it. The US makes up about 4.5% of the global population and it seems silly to think that the FAANG compan…

In this supposed competition with China, Trump is deeply dedicated to giving China every advantage possible. From defunding science, fining the biggest universities, defunding green energy, making hiring ambitious foreign workers economically unfeasible, replacing technocratic administrators with incompetent lackies with quite literally zero experience, imposing inordinate tariffs ... It's just win after win for the…

Sad that we're doing this. The United States couldn't compete and was a poor country with minimal scientific achievement until the H-1B visa was created in 1990.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by gradientsrneat »

archeantus wrote: post #586

If you want a good job in tech, go look at Walmart’s job board in the coming weeks. They literally have thousands of Indians doing all kinds of jobs that could easily be done by Americans. I liked my time there, and there’s lots of great people, but it felt very clear that the system was being abused.

Was this comment posted before on other threads or is it just me? Not saying it isn't relevant to the discussion, but it does seem to be worded the same.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by mkoubaa »

yalogin wrote: post #722

Actually it’s much more sinister. It’s another way to force companies to kiss the ring. The government apparently can grant exceptions if they deem it’s in the good of the country. > The restriction imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b) of this section shall not apply to any individual alien, all aliens working for a company, or all aliens working in an industry, if the Secretary of Homeland Security determines…

This is very reassuring for those in the right industries. For non-strategic things like b2b SaaS, it's very likely to be a full purge

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by apwell23 »

btbuildem wrote: post #729

Everyone is discussing the merits and downsides of this, but I'm yet to see the obvious be pointed out: it's extortion. It's interesting to read all the analysis in the comments, but I think people are giving far too much credit to the admin in terms of having considered the impacts, the effects, some kind of desired direction for things to move, etc. It's really much simpler than that: the mob boss has to get a cut…

so when you pay money to govt ( taxes ect) they tell you what exactly thats going towards?

What kind of BS is this :)

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by s1artibartfast »

fogzen wrote: post #287
cogman10 wrote: post #36

IMO, the fee is the wrong thing that needs adjusting. It's the salary that should be adjusted. The minimum salary for an H1B should be $200k. It's something like 50k right now which is ridiculous especially with all the restrictions an applicant is under. It both suppresses wages and abuses the worker.

IMO the minimum salary should be $0 and Americans should be free to hire whoever they want, without paying a fee and asking permission from the government. Non-citizens should be subject to the same minimum wage and workplace regulations as everywhere else. Whoever wants to come to America should be able to freely come, treated the same as anyone else. But that would be a free market that respected human rights, and…

Nobody wants that kind of equality, just like they don't want other people to have equal access to their bank account or home.
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