Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

Post by Gareth321 » Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 1:26 PM UTC

mattlutze wrote: post #776

Gareth321 wrote: post #731

The Chair of this "independent" inquiry is Navi Pillay of South Africa ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_International_Comm... ); the nation which accused Israel of genocide and referred it to the ICJ. The outcome of this inquiry was always going to be highly partisan. The report's definition rests upon statements by key Israeli officials in determining genocidal intent. While the statements are accurate, i…

In this situation, where you advocate for waiting until a different organization gives its opinion: while waiting, will net-more harm have occurred if Israel 1. reduces the volume and density of violence being acted on that territory, or 2. continues, as it is currently doing, to increase the volume and density of violence being acted on that territory Is there a different answer, should this other organization’s opi…

Post by slt2021 » Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 4:18 PM UTC

grafmax wrote: post #739

rf15 wrote: post #572

It is incredibly interesting how the US (and Germany) have put so much into Israel and associated groups they really don't want it to fail (despite the Israeli gov doing their damnest to facilitate just that). In my understanding Israel, in the eyes of the US, is a convenient "wedge" in the Arab space that allows for easier power projection in the area, plus they have a healthy amount of zionists close to money and p…

And then there’s genocide. Framing support for Israel as purely geopolitical misses what’s going on.

Post by stanfordkid » Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 5:13 PM UTC

rf15 wrote: post #572

It is incredibly interesting how the US (and Germany) have put so much into Israel and associated groups they really don't want it to fail (despite the Israeli gov doing their damnest to facilitate just that). In my understanding Israel, in the eyes of the US, is a convenient "wedge" in the Arab space that allows for easier power projection in the area, plus they have a healthy amount of zionists close to money and p…

Post by cryptoegorophy » Fri, Sep 19, 2025, 12:30 AM UTC

runarberg wrote: post #293

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #279

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I don’t believe questions like that are asked in good faith. Maybe you are the exception, but I have seen too many people begin with exactly this question, and then end up justifying the Gaza genocide. In case you are asking in good faith—and following the HN guidelines—I suggest you abandon this question and consider that maybe this is the wrong question to ask given the situation. If that is hard, then I ask you to…

Post by dotancohen » Fri, Sep 19, 2025, 1:32 AM UTC

stanfordkid wrote: post #945

rf15 wrote: post #572

It is incredibly interesting how the US (and Germany) have put so much into Israel and associated groups they really don't want it to fail (despite the Israeli gov doing their damnest to facilitate just that). In my understanding Israel, in the eyes of the US, is a convenient "wedge" in the Arab space that allows for easier power projection in the area, plus they have a healthy amount of zionists close to money and p…

This is a common framing by neo-liberal / centrist folks: That the US/West is intelligently and methodologically utilizing Israel for some tactical geopolitical advantage / force projection. It may have played out that way in the past... but at this point Israel is lobbying the US gov't heavily and has bought out most politicians via AIPAC. The myth of Israel being a "bastion" between the west and terrorist Arabs is…

  > They bombed the shit out of Lebanon and who would've thunk it Hezbollah popped up.