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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by kiitos »

loughnane wrote: post #689

The sad irony is that he's at a college campus debating/arguing with people. At their best that's what college campuses are for. I know they haven't been living up to it lately but seeing him gunned down feels like a metaphor. I know he liked to publicize the exchanges where he got the best of someone, and bury the others, and that he was a far, far cry from a public intellectual. Still, he talked to folks about idea…

> Still, he talked to folks about ideas, and that's something that we should have more of.

no he didn't, and this is absolutely self-evident, he trolled and victim-blamed and had no interest in talking to anyone about any kind of idea

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by selfmodruntime »

password54321 wrote: post #818
loughnane wrote: post #689

The sad irony is that he's at a college campus debating/arguing with people. At their best that's what college campuses are for. I know they haven't been living up to it lately but seeing him gunned down feels like a metaphor. I know he liked to publicize the exchanges where he got the best of someone, and bury the others, and that he was a far, far cry from a public intellectual. Still, he talked to folks about idea…

It is a performance that appears as a debate.

Not really.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by selfmodruntime »

jake_brake wrote: post #914
loughnane wrote: post #689

The sad irony is that he's at a college campus debating/arguing with people. At their best that's what college campuses are for. I know they haven't been living up to it lately but seeing him gunned down feels like a metaphor. I know he liked to publicize the exchanges where he got the best of someone, and bury the others, and that he was a far, far cry from a public intellectual. Still, he talked to folks about idea…

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How so? He was a man with opinions you disagree with. I did too. That does not make him evil.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by stayhydratedboy »

numa7numa7 wrote: post #675

Can people just upvote a post instead of repeating exactly what another person has said? Yeah we all know violence has no place in our society and gun's are controversial and politics should be more civil.

You're right! Let's stop talking about it and move on. Survivor is coming on on NBC soon. I can't wait to head to nbc.com and get my official merchandise! Nothing need be discussed; the media has already decided for us.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by istjohn »

hintymad wrote: post #904
themgt wrote: post #286

But we have to make an effort in the United States. We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather difficult times. My favorite poem, my -- my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote: "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God." What we need in the Uni…

> what we need in the United States is not hatred What saddens me is people take different political views as hatred, and medias run with it. I can't remember how many times a person is labeled fascist or communist just because their views are different.

Kirk didn't deserve to die for having or expressing hateful ideas, but his views were not merely "different."

Charlie Kirk speaking about a trans athlete: "Someone should've just took care of it the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s or 60s[0].

And [1]:

> America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.

And [1]:

> The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.

0. https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/this-must-stop-tpusas-cha...

1. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk...

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by croes »

johnisgood wrote: post #931
pxc wrote: post #902

There was a school shooting on the same day as Kirk's death: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-wounded-shooti... If he were still alive, he would be writing and speaking about how such violence is unfortunate but ultimately acceptable— even necessary— to "preserve our freedoms", brushing it aside to be forgotten. He of course did so many times in life, notably in 2023 when he was quoted doing so in the me…

> If he were still alive, he would be writing and speaking about how such violence is unfortunate but ultimately acceptable— even necessary— to "preserve our freedoms" He would have really advocated for violence, or school shootings? That seems odd. It is way different from "gun deaths are worth having the 2nd amendment".

Did he question the 2nd amendment beacuse of school shootings? If not then school shooting deaths are part of his costs of his 2nd amendment defense.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by dttze »

lunarboy wrote: post #908
pxc wrote: post #902

There was a school shooting on the same day as Kirk's death: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-wounded-shooti... If he were still alive, he would be writing and speaking about how such violence is unfortunate but ultimately acceptable— even necessary— to "preserve our freedoms", brushing it aside to be forgotten. He of course did so many times in life, notably in 2023 when he was quoted doing so in the me…

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