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Re: iPhone Air

#941
post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

It probably fits better in the front pocket of one’s trousers. And if so, that’s great news.

Re: iPhone Air

#943

Wow, a phone with a battery that's so bad, they're selling an extra one to strap to the back of it, on launch day... The most innovative thing that Apple has done recently is figuring out how to have their CEO deliver a gift wrapped gold bar to the president. [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbEsY-YpF1E&t=133s

Apple released the first magsafe battery years ago. The battery life is also the same as the 16.

Re: iPhone Air

#944
post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

Doubt most people want it as thin as possible. This is just the phone industry running out of ideas and trying to tell people what they actually need. There's not much left to "fix" on mobile phones, and no real important features to add. Lacking that, they need something to sell the phones with, so they're going for these strange "improvements". It needs to be something that has some wow factor so they can lead with…

iPhone could always use a camera that's not embarrassingly worse than every Samsung and Pixel phone's camera

Re: iPhone Air

#945

I have an iPhone 13 mini, just replaced the battery. If you want my money, give me an iPhone 17 mini with small width and height, I don't care about it being thinner like the Air. Also, no AI ruining the image quality of the expensive camera. I saw examples of a consumer-grade digital camera vs an iPhone 16 and the latter introduced "hotdog skin" effect and other effects that made the photos look over-processed.

This! small form factor yet powerful. Any OS works. What has been happening is upping the specs mean larger size, less easy to carry and hard to use with one hand.

Re: iPhone Air

#946
I feel like phones are currently in the "Osprey backpack" stage of product development. There's nothing new happening and no new problems to solve, short of a miracle like making your backpack half the weight or something. So what they do instead is add features one year but take others away so they can add them back later.

So it's like: year 1: super thin, super light (shit battery life, no headphone port etc), then year 2 it will be: awesome battery life, headphone jack (but thick, heavy).

Basically they have to be careful they don't ever make the perfect phone. They do have planned obsolescence as another trick up their sleeve, though. So you'll never see an Apple phone with upgradable storage etc (the Android ones go more for having the software becoming obsolete).

Re: iPhone Air

#947

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

> My iPhone 11 still feels very much good enough (which I imagine must be terrible for Apple) I think Apple has come to terms with the fact that people are no longer upgrading their phones every 1-2 years. They are probably happy just to keep you in the Apple ecosystem where they can sell you apps, services, accessories, other compatible apple products - and hopefully get your repeat business when you do one day feel…

I'm pretty sure they know people aren't upgrading every 1-2 years - they have some pretty extensive data on that front. There is a subset but there are some pretty sharp people working at Apple even if this thread likes to rip them every chance they get.

Re: iPhone Air

#948

It has A19 Pro. A19 Pro has matmul acceleration in its GPU, the equivalent of Nvidia's Tensor cores. This would make future Macs extremely viable for local LLMs. Currently, Macs have high memory bandwidth and high VRAM capacity but low prompt processing speeds. Give it a large context and it'll take forever before the first token is generated. If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, the…

> It has A19 Pro.

But it's not general purpose. Broken by design.

I'll pass. Not going to support this. We need less of this crap not more.

Re: iPhone Air

#949
post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

I'm going to preorder one because I want a light phone and a large screen. This will be the lightest iPhone in years while also having a bigger screen than most. I dropped from the Pro Max to the Pro last year because I was tired of how much it hurt when I dropped my phone on my face. I don't have much call for most of the camera system, and my battery life on my Pro is just fine. I have plenty of chargers typically,…

>> I dropped from the Pro Max to the Pro last year because I was tired of how much it hurt when I dropped my phone on my face.

I never had this issue with my phone but it was a big reason for moving from an iPad to a Kindle for reading in bed... Dropping an iPad on my face (or even chest) == ouch.

Re: iPhone Air

#950
post #651

The 16e is 167 grams, where the Air is 165 grams. It feels like the Air is to the 16e what the Pro is to the standard titled iPhone — the expensive version. Which makes the marketing feel a bit incongruent with what we've gotten here. It's not noticeably more lightweight than what is currently offered, it's less featureful than the 17, but more expensive than the 17 (albeit perhaps prettier). It seems like engineerin…

A lot of pseudo-intellectual babble over what is clearly a cool piece of engineering that many people are excited about. Turns out, you can just do things, some people will think it's awesome while the people in the middle of the curve continue to keep the midwit meme alive.
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