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You got brainwashed https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12503/1 "1982 U.S.-PRC Joint Communiqué/Six Assurances As they negotiated establishment of diplomatic relations, the U.S. and PRC governments agreed to set aside the contentious issue of U.S. arms sales to Taiwan. They took up that issue in the 1982 August 17 Communiqué, in which the PRC states “a fundamental policy of striving for peaceful reunific…

I don't see how the commenter is 'brainwashed'. The One China Policy was and remains a convenient status quo for all parties. The risk is that China decides that it's newfound economic and military might have changed that calculus.

Yeah, now a open question, what's worse:

- reuniting with China

- getting your only industry stolen by the USA

Quick, you have less than 5 years to answer

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Exactly. We have a westerner bragging about blocking a 5000 years old country's access to the sea like it's a normal thing and they're not the intruder. Hilarious.

What are you talking about? You think I'm a westerner bragging about blocking something that isn't even blocked and I'm an intruder? All I said was that China is terrified of naval blockade, which it is. You're the one being hilarious here.

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We don't have slave camps with Uyghurs though.

Those were the result of public terrorist attacks on China from domestic terrorists to a scale even larger than 9/11. People were slaughtered and those camps are an immune reaction to that slaughter from China. The media hides this from you. China did an extreme move here. It’s bad. It’s not slave camps but more education camps or indoctrination camps. It’s forced indoctrination into modern society. The thing with th…

OK, but I can't help thinking of this quote:

"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."

And the US didn't start camps after 9/11.

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> even blockade Taiwan. An act of war, which the US would respond to with a freedom-of-navigation exercise backed up by the full might of US-PACOM. China would lose that standoff, which is why they're unlikely to do it unless they were confident of US non-involvement.

China has arguably excellent marine forces by now. Not sure the US would be able to counter that.

China is still modernising. They're outproducing the US in terms of new equipment, but flows aren't stocks, and the US also has decades of refinement and experience to draw on in comparison to China's zilch.

Don't get me wrong: the trend is towards Chinese dominance, but I don't think we're close yet. China would have to throw everything at Taiwan, and it would turn into a shooting gallery.

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Threatening to annex Greenland ( Denmark) Threatening to annex Canada and start a trade war to try to compulse them. Invoking Canadian nationalism instead. Note: he arranged the previous "trade deal" he claims to hate now. Starting a trade war with Mexico, this is actually a source of Fentanyl and I can understand. Camerading with dictators ( Russia), voting the same as them in the UN. Claiming Russia isn't the aggre…

6 hours later: - re-iterated threats about Greenland ( one way or another we'll get it) - tarrifs India - tarrifs South Korea - tarrifs China ( that one I get) - Seize Panama canal ( forgot that) - threatening US students and schools for protesting - removing a black congressmen from Trump's speech - banned intelligence sharing to Ukraine Ho boy, at this rate. No one will be left from US allies within months.

Add Japan to the list regarding currencies

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#946
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Certainly these were due to social media manipulation

In my opinion it is a populist movement, and we should accept this hard truth. Trump is in office due to "manipulation" to the same extent that any speech is manipulation. He is a salesman and has sold his vision for the country successfully.

UK Parliament has found substantial interference from Russia UK politics - including interfering in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum

https://www.dw.com/en/russia-report-damning-of-uk-government...

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What would make carrier strike groups effective in the situation? Given their recent record in the defense of Israel and against the Yemeni Red Sea blockade, one could argue that their era is over. The two most likely outcomes from a carrier strike group engaging with China forces are either a humiliating retreat, or WW3. I think US are smart enough to keep them at bay. Maybe station one in the area for monitoring th…

You are approaching this from the wrong direction. Air forces, navies, and drones cannot conquer a country. For that, you need ground forces with plenty of heavy equipment. Which can only cross the sea in slow and vulnerable ships. To stop them, you need long-distance firepower with large enough warheads. A carrier strike group is the least vulnerable way of delivering such firepower. The job of a carrier strike grou…

So how will the carrier strike groups be used? Sink Chinese navy ships? That's one step up the escalation ladder.

China will reciprocate with sinking some escort ships of the carrier groups, just to make a point and demonstrate their hypersonics. Another step up the escalation ladder.

At which point, the carrier groups either back off to de-escalate and avoid losing a capital ship. Or stay there and continue the escalation. As mentioned in another comment, this is projected to stop the Chinese invasion at the cost of losing two carriers. That is, if WW3 doesn't start first.

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The idea that the US protects Taiwan from a possible Chinese invasion over chips is one of those things that sounds believable but really isn't going to happen. From China’s perspective, the cost of war is much higher than the cost of developing these chips themselves. In the worst-case scenario, they would be 2-3 years behind the cutting edge, which is not mission-critical. Most electronics (civilian or military) do…

China doesn't want Taiwan for TSMC. They want Taiwan because they see them as a rebellious province. In their mind, the Chinese civil war never ended and that island is the last bastion of the Kuomintang. One way I've heard it described in a way that is easier for Americans to understand is; Imagine at the end of the American Civil War, a confederate army retreated to an island like Cuba or Hawaii, they took it over…

> and have been calling themselves the real America ever since

This isn't really the situation with Taiwan though. The main reason Taiwan is still officially called the Republic of China is because changing that will likely trigger the PRC.

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What port? They already have Crimea (since 2014) and the Black Sea isn't really 'balmy.'

It doesn't freeze which by Russian standards is balmy, an accidental shiboleth that trips up Russians pretending to be American online is they'll mention unprompted "warm water port" as a notable feature.[0] This invasion is partially an extension of their goal of securing Crimea with a more solid land connection rather than the more easily interrupted bridge connection that was their only connection until they pushe…

> an accidental shiboleth that trips up Russians pretending to be American online is they'll mention unprompted "warm water port" as a notable feature.

That's just reddit paranoia. "Warm water port" is a term of art which means a port that stays free of ice. It's not about comfortable swimming temperatures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port#Warm-water_port

Reddit just uses this as an excuse to say that anybody discussing reasons Russia might have started this war, other than "they're being evil for the sake of being evil, just like in my manchild Marvel/Harry Potter/Star Wars movies" is secretly a Russian bot, because even if you know such reasons might exist your willingness to discuss them, or unwillingness to go along with a simplistic groupthink narrative, is something which must be suppressed and punished. The cause is more important than your desire to have an honest conversation!

Anyway, this kind of language policing and "shibboleth" crap lame slacktivism. Go enlist. Ooh, that's probably a shibboleth too. Beep boop, Imma robot because I don't walk in lockstep with Reddit!

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The certainty of a war right now vs maybe a nuke tomorrow? Surely you can see that's an easy choice. And if you can't perhaps read one of the articles on Bucha?

Certainty of war now Vs a potential nuclear war tomorrow? Are those really the only choices as far as you're concerned?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflict...

Pretty much all these conflicts are pretty limited and there's very few states focused on war (whereas before Nukes in the 20th century essentially all of Europe and Asia was focused on war, constantly)

So yes, I find the idea that the nuclear weapons threat is preventing a LOT of wider wars and is responsible for the most peaceful period ever in human history pretty convincing.

When it comes to relations between states, arguments go between capitalism and war (ie. just taking what you want vs trade)

I get that capitalism (selling/exporting their oil) brought Soviets enormous success and taking what they want in war brought the USSR down. And yet, despite that, here we are with Russia and Ukraine. You'd think recent Russian history would convince anyone the Ukraine conflict is not worth it, obviously not for Ukraine, but also not for Russia. It's an easy argument to make that for Russia abandoning the war today, just going home right now, will provide more rewards for Russia and Russians than a complete victory would bring, even if that victory ALSO came today ... and yet nobody thinks Russia will abandon the fight. As for their ability to wage war, the sad truth is, Putin has conquered more people than he lost, and Russia has conquered more minerals' than they lost in equipment. If Putin wants to use both resources to create more war, he will be able to do so.

Something very similar can be said about China and Taiwan. Not having a conflict is obviously the best option ... and yet, there's very little doubt that conflict will erupt in a few years, not decades.

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