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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by shermantanktop »

tomcam wrote: post #862
shermantanktop wrote: post #814

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You may have belonged to one of those groups in the past, or maybe you will someday. I certainly have. Many of the more seasoned folks on HN have. Stuff goes wrong, random internet people jump on the opportunity to speculate and say wildly off-the-mark comments, and the engineers trying to keep the ship from sinking have to sit quietly for fear of making the PR backlash worse.

Most or all of your replies are to people who hallucinate things you didn’t say. Your patience is inspiring.

I was interviewing a dev candidate some years ago and they were totally lost trying to traverse a tree on the whiteboard. I kept helping them get unblocked, because my philosophy is that anyone can get stuck once, but if I’m supposed decide whether to hire you, I should get the most/best data I can.

Another person was observing the interview, for training purposes, and afterwards said to me: “Do you have kids? You have so much patience!”

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by NoPicklez »

softwaredoug wrote: post #495

The way to deal with this is to constantly do live events, and actually build organizational muscle. Not these massive one off events in an area the tech team has no experience in.

I think Netflix have a fair bit of organisational muscle, perhaps the fight was considered not as large of an event as the NFL streams would be in the future.

Also, "No experience in" really? You have no idea if that's really the case

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by tomcam »

shermantanktop wrote: post #941
tomcam wrote: post #862

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most or all of your replies are to people who hallucinate things you didn’t say. Your patience is inspiring.

I was interviewing a dev candidate some years ago and they were totally lost trying to traverse a tree on the whiteboard. I kept helping them get unblocked, because my philosophy is that anyone can get stuck once, but if I’m supposed decide whether to hire you, I should get the most/best data I can. Another person was observing the interview, for training purposes, and afterwards said to me: “Do you have kids? You ha…

If I weren’t retired, I would totally apply to work for you

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by fragmede »

grayhatter wrote: post #918
fragmede wrote: post #832

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Some people can just let others be wrong and just stay silent, but some people can't help themselves. So if you say something really wrong, like this was caused by Netflix moving to Azure, they should have stayed on AWS! someone will come along to correct you. If you're looking for the right answer, post the wrong one, alongside some provoking statement (Windows is better than Linux because this works there), and you…

> Some people can just let others be wrong and just stay silent, but some people can't help themselves. As one of thoes who cant help themselves; the way you phrase it feels a bit too cynical, I've always interpreted it as people want to help, but don't want to offer something that's wrong. Which is basically how falsifiable science works. It's so much easier to refute the assertion that birds generate lift with tiny…

It depends on the medium and the cost of looking like an idiot. On the Internet where some tosser is going to call you names anyway? Saying dumb shit to nerdsnipe someone else to do hours of research and write an essay on it for you, at the expense of them calling you an idiot, is cheap, and easier than doing all that work yourself. Meanwhile, at work, I'm the one getting nerd sniped into doing a bunch of extra work.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by jiggawatts »

otterley wrote: post #937
jiggawatts wrote: post #926

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So you’re saying the investors are happy to see their money set on fire? Surely they expect at a minimum that their capital investment would make them dividends (increased revenue), and also that the money wasn’t simply set on fire with nothing to show for it and no way to repay it. If I’m wrong then Twitter - and similar companies - are little better than Ponzi schemes, with investors relying on the money of the gre…

> So you’re saying the investors are happy to see their money set on fire? Ah, HN, where you try to explain how things work, and you get ignorant sarcasm in return. > Surely they expect at a minimum that their capital investment would make them dividends (increased revenue), and also that the money wasn’t simply set on fire with nothing to show for it and no way to repay it. Yes, of course. But when safe investments…

> A VC, on the other hand, is often content to have zero returns for years followed by a 100x payout through an IPO

I know how all this works, but 100x payout is for the small initial investments, not after 10 years of operating at multi-billion-dollar scales.

Small amounts of money are set on fire all of the time, chasing this kind of high-risk return.

Nonetheless, there's an expectation of a return, even if only in aggregate across many small startups.

What I was observing (from the outside, at a distance) was that Twitter was still being run by a startup despite being in an effectively monopoly position already and a "mature" company. Similarly, Amazon could set money on fire while they were the growing underdog. If they doubled their headcount today without doubling either revenue or profits, the idiots responsible for that would be summarily fired.

I get that Silicon Valley and their startup culture does a few things in an unusual way, but that doesn't make US dollars not be US dollars and magically turn into monopoly money that rains from the sky just because interest rates are low.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by bumby »

lclarkmichalek wrote: post #777
ryandv wrote: post #756

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I've noticed this amongst the newer "careerist" sort of software developer who is stumbling into the field for money, as opposed to the obsessive computer geek of yesteryear, who practiced it as a hobby. This character archetype is a transplant, say, less than five years ago from another, often non-technical discipline, and was taught or learned from overly simplistic materials that decry systems programming, or netw…

What does this have to do with the topic being discussed?

In short, people with glib answers tend to rely on over simplified models that don’t reflect reality.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by brokenmachine »

ksec wrote: post #122

Netflix is good only on streaming ready made content, not live streaming, but; 1. Netflix is a 300B company, this isn't a resources issue. 2. This isn't the first time they have done live streaming at this scale either. They already have prior failure experience, you expect the 2nd time to be better, if not perfect. 3. There were plenty of time between first massive live streaming to second. Meaning plenty of time to…

>They already have prior failure experience

What was the previous fail?

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by stainforth »

transcriptase wrote: post #768
survirtual wrote: post #733

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For an event like this, there already exists an architecture that can handle boundless scale: torrents. If you code it to utilize high-bandwidth users upload, the service becomes more available as more users are watching -- not less available. It becomes less expensive with scale, more available, more stable. The be more specific, if you encode the video in blocks with each new block hash being broadcast across the n…

I don’t pay my ISP each month to be part of a streaming sites infrastructure. I pay the streaming site each month to use theirs.

If you use Comcast's modem/wifi router, you are part of their service infrastructure. Xfinity WiFi Home Hotspot

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by throwaway7ahgb »

otterley wrote: post #937
jiggawatts wrote: post #926

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you’re saying the investors are happy to see their money set on fire? Surely they expect at a minimum that their capital investment would make them dividends (increased revenue), and also that the money wasn’t simply set on fire with nothing to show for it and no way to repay it. If I’m wrong then Twitter - and similar companies - are little better than Ponzi schemes, with investors relying on the money of the gre…

> So you’re saying the investors are happy to see their money set on fire? Ah, HN, where you try to explain how things work, and you get ignorant sarcasm in return. > Surely they expect at a minimum that their capital investment would make them dividends (increased revenue), and also that the money wasn’t simply set on fire with nothing to show for it and no way to repay it. Yes, of course. But when safe investments…

People here don't understand basic concepts like risk adjusted returns, flight to quality, Searching for yield etc...

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by brokenmachine »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #905
notatoad wrote: post #86

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>Is it really that big a deal if you are watching a few minutes behind? i don't bet on sports. but from friends who do: yes, it's a really really big deal.

I have seen this type of comment a few times here. Why does it matter to a bettor if the stream is delayed by 1-5 mins? How would they even know?

I remember a few years ago reading about a scam at the Australian Open Tennis where there were people inside the stadium who were betting on individual points as they happened.

I guess they could bet before the betting streams caught up.

It seems ridiculous to me that you can bet on individual points, but here we are.

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