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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by gpvos »

AnarchismIsCool wrote: post #930
macocha wrote: post #924

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Naming of Hacker News is like Open AI.

I miss when this place was full of wide-eyed CS undergrads, now it's just "Exploits in Venture Capitalism". Everyone has grown up and gotten themselves high paying, boring adtech jobs so now they feel the need to defend surveillance capitalism and "intellectual property" at every turn. We used to make fun of illegal numbers and censorship efforts, now we support them. I guess you either die a hero or you live long en…

Well, this site was started and is still run by YCombinator, so that tension has always been there, and is in fact part of what makes it so great. (I sympathize mostly with the wide-eyed undergrads though.)

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by 0xedd »

jvanderbot wrote: post #933
AnarchismIsCool wrote: post #930

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss when this place was full of wide-eyed CS undergrads, now it's just "Exploits in Venture Capitalism". Everyone has grown up and gotten themselves high paying, boring adtech jobs so now they feel the need to defend surveillance capitalism and "intellectual property" at every turn. We used to make fun of illegal numbers and censorship efforts, now we support them. I guess you either die a hero or you live long en…

Perhaps, but also the new generation didn't know anything else. There's plenty of fresh grads where I work, here, and elsewhere, who just don't value that fight as much or see it as the winnable-struggle-against-the-empire like we did. I'm sure having a few kids takes the wind out of the middle-aged pirate ship's sails, but there are plenty of younger folks here who just value the startup culture, technology for its…

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by jfdjkfdhjds »

AnarchismIsCool wrote: post #930
macocha wrote: post #924

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Naming of Hacker News is like Open AI.

I miss when this place was full of wide-eyed CS undergrads, now it's just "Exploits in Venture Capitalism". Everyone has grown up and gotten themselves high paying, boring adtech jobs so now they feel the need to defend surveillance capitalism and "intellectual property" at every turn. We used to make fun of illegal numbers and censorship efforts, now we support them. I guess you either die a hero or you live long en…

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by southernplaces7 »

talldayo wrote: post #919
SentientAtom wrote: post #917

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

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>You gotta use other sites if you prefer the company of ideologues with a backbone. Apologists and sycophants will outnumber you 10:1, here.

For one example of this in action, saying anything positive about cryptocurrency and being bombarded by the usual "it's a scam". "We need KYC and AML because governments are simply trying to keep us safe" "All transactions should be fully controlled" and so forth. Absurd.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by jfdjkfdhjds »

wnevets wrote: post #934
SentientAtom wrote: post #917

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

> RIAA There is something about treating the RIAA as the scary internet boggy man in 2024 that just seems so quaint.

agree. riaa was a very effective distraction for what the offshore industrial lobby was accomplishing... everyone only talked about frivolous media when discussing TPP at the time.

but if you understand that you also understand what his point was even if clumping it wrongly under the misdirection of blaming riaa.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

spacephysics wrote: post #923
talldayo wrote: post #919

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Where can i find such sites

Presumably mongolian basket weaving forum, but it lately mandates phoneposting, so take it with a grain of salt.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by bbitmaster »

SentientAtom wrote: post #917

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

If you had legally purchased DVDs and blu rays during mega-upload's time, and hadn't tried to decrypt them for backup purposes (thus circumventing copyright measures, also using tools developed mostly by "outlaws"), those discs would now be suffering from bitrot and becoming unplayable.

But now we're moving away from physical media, we're fast moving to a world where all you can even "own" legally is a DRM laden copy that can be revoked at any moment by the digital store front providing it. Your windows 11 upgrade requires hardware TPM (a form of hardware DRM that everyone used to really fear) chip support to even install.

And this seems to be the world the hacker news what and tech crowd really wants. I personally miss the old mid 2000's slashdot days when everyone knew better. I haven't changed -- they changed.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by spopejoy »

SentientAtom wrote: post #917

You really need not look any further than this thread for what-about-isms and attack-the-man arguments. The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed. Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits", well I guess that's how meaningful fights should end, giving up because the adversity is too great or the fight has lasted too…

> The fact Hacker News of all places is going to bat for the RIAA and US Industrial Complex leaves me disappointed.

The real trend on HN is low-effort comments like this that generalize about HN. How about making an actual argument defending Kim Dotcom?

> Top comment reads something like "Yea but maybe its time to call it quits" ... Shame.

But ... what happens to your point when your comment becomes top-voted like it is now? Is HN redeemed because apparently everybody on HN agrees with you that HN is terrible?

> US Industrial Complex

At this point I wish Eisenhower hadn't coined the famous phrase. Everything gets called some variation of Foo/Bar Industrial Complex which sounds smart and describes nothing.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by southernplaces7 »

AnarchismIsCool wrote: post #930
macocha wrote: post #924

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Naming of Hacker News is like Open AI.

I miss when this place was full of wide-eyed CS undergrads, now it's just "Exploits in Venture Capitalism". Everyone has grown up and gotten themselves high paying, boring adtech jobs so now they feel the need to defend surveillance capitalism and "intellectual property" at every turn. We used to make fun of illegal numbers and censorship efforts, now we support them. I guess you either die a hero or you live long en…

I actually see a lot of comments, frequently, on this site pretending to hate surveillance capitalism and sticking up their noses at adtech, at every turn, particularly when used by some tiny little niche website that's just barely scraping by. This despite, presumably, many of these same people working for some of the biggest adsludge-pumping companies on the planet.
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