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Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity

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Re: Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity

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In my 20s I joined a couple startups as "early engineer" or "founding engineer". I quickly realized those are the absolute worst positions to be in. You take almost as much risk as the founders but almost none of the upside. One startup died, the other one sold for 100m$. Out of that I saw 400k$ as an exit. Not too bad but even with that exit I ended up making way less than if I joined a FAANG. In both cases the foun…

I second this. I took a large salary cut to be 1/2 of an engineering team at a seed stage startup for ~1.25%. After 2 years of pretty grueling work I left to go back to big tech for 3x the pay. I wouldn't call it a total waste of time in the sense that it made me a better engineer, but it certainly wasn't worth it financially. The company still exists and has had a relatively successful series A and "A extension" but…

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Re: Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity

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The average SUCCESSFUL founder is in their earlier 30s. At that point - you should be at least L4 (probably L5) at FAANG. Salaries are about ~$450k at that level and age. In 5 years, if you work even a fraction of as hard as you need to be a successful founder, you should be L7 - salaries are usually >$800k at that point. No, it is not like any average slacker straight out of college in 5 years can get to a $1M salar…

The average L5 SWE salary at Google in the SF Bay Area is $215,000 [1]. 1. https://www.levels.fyi/companies/google/salaries/software-en...

That's base pay. Equity is typically another $100k at least.

Re: Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity

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...? Much of what you described applies to early employees, too.

I have always taken a lower salary than early employees. And had periods before raising money and after the money dried up where I was taking no salary. I think it is way way way more common for founders to do this than early employees.

So? I've been in the exact same situation as you, as CTO of my startups.

Just because some things you wrote don't apply to early employees doesn't mean many things don't apply...which is what I said.

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