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The owner is living there and happy with the space or they would move. That is not underutilization. The solution to housing shortage is to build more housing, not to create “bedroom police” who go around and tell you’re not allowed to have your house because they will decide for you how much space you need.
Lol bedroom police. Yes, because that's exactly what we were discussing. Or, you could, you know, make it more affordable to build smaller homes with fewer bedrooms so people actually have options when they become empty nesters.
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#942Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, too many people think supply/demand is all there is to prices, when that is just economics 101. What many people seem to not even know, is that the theory only holds true under competitive free market conditions and falls apart under captive/uncompetitive markets. Many also assume trade volume is necessarily representative of a supply shortage, when that isn't always the case, as "supply" and "supply for sale…
> What many people seem to not even know, is that the theory only holds true under competitive free market conditions and falls apart under captive/uncompetitive markets. Why would the law of supply and demand fall apart under captive/uncompetitive markets? A captive or uncompetitive market may impact the quantity of a good or service available and/or the quantity of a good or service willing to be purchased at a giv…
For the law to hold perfectly and describe prices, everyone in the market (both buyers and sellers) must be a "price taker". That is, the amount anyone supplies(sells)/demands(buys) is entirely a function of the going market price of whats being traded, and no one believes they will influence prices. (If anyone isn't a "price taker", then supply/demand of the good being traded are no longer the only variables in the function of price). So, typically under competitive market conditions (that is there are many buyers/sellers), as prices rise demand from buyers will drop and selling increases from sellers, whereas the opposite happens when prices fall.
However, in captive markets such as one consisting of a monopoly seller, the seller can test demand to find the most profitable price for them specifically. At which point the seller is no longer operating as a "price taker", as they will reduce selling as prices rise to find that optimal price point for themselves (as they have input costs which have their own price curves that buyers don't know or care about). Remember, a "price taker" cannot influence the price, but must take or leave it depending on price. Thus price is no longer determined purely by the market supply/demand of the good, but also profit margin of the monopolist.
> Huh? Supply is characterized by being "for sale".
It often is, and there is nothing wrong with it being defined that way. But the idea which is being expressed here is what is important. For hyperbole, if I hoarded all of the worlds water, but only listed 2 liters of it for sale (much less than the population needs), would that indicate the world has a water shortage? One would argue yes, if you defined supply as "for sale", but no if differentiated in the way I did.
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#943People intuitively jump to the conclusion that the problem is caused by a lack of building. While more building would help, a lack of it isn't the main cause of this problem. Ask yourself, do Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the US, Britain, Ireland, etc, all have the same inability to build or is there maybe some other common cause? In my view this is symptomatic of a more fundamental issue - global asset price infla…
AKA, not enough buildings / lack of building..
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#944“But shelling out $2,500 (£1,960) a month in rent doesn't leave much left over” I’ve noticed roommates are not a thing for many people anymore, particularly among younger folk. Is this a post-Covid thing?
Now for the last 3 or so years I have been earning a decent salary in a 7 year long career and saving a significant deposit, but my capacity has diminished significantly.
A house I lived in to rent in 2019 sold for $550k in 2019, that house is now worth $780k.
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#945Younger people need to join the YIMBY movement in droves. Your economic future depends on removing the crushing restrictions on building new homes, especially homes in high wage cities. The older Boomer generation will never change its NIMBY views. Never.
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#946The problem is lack of supply vs demand. In 2022,England and Wales: - built 254000 homes[0] - had 745,000 people immigrate (net)[1] - had 600000 people turn 21[2] - had 577160 people die[3] If you gain a load of people, far more than you increased dwellings for, prices will go up and dwelling size will go down. It's not particularly complicated. [0] https://www.savills.co.uk/research_articles/229130/357082-0 [1] http…
UK also has the Council Tax which is arguably a stupider tax policy than California's Prop 13
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#947Earlier quoted context omitted.
People really want there to be "one reason" for skyrocketing housing prices. Real life is not so accommodating. The problem is multi-faceted. Is there asset price inflation due to cheap money? Yes. Have foreign nationals been parking their cash in real estate in certain western countries? Yes. Has restrictive zoning and NIMBY-ism reduced the incoming supply of new homes? Yes. Multiple things can be true at the same t…
You conveniently forgot immigration. Canada alone has added 500.000 people to their populace since the beginning of the year.
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#948People intuitively jump to the conclusion that the problem is caused by a lack of building. While more building would help, a lack of it isn't the main cause of this problem. Ask yourself, do Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the US, Britain, Ireland, etc, all have the same inability to build or is there maybe some other common cause? In my view this is symptomatic of a more fundamental issue - global asset price infla…
You are just talking about another symptom of constricted supply.