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Post by doug_durham »

anon373839 wrote: post #733
plaidfuji wrote: post #717

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

> We’re moving toward a world where every job will be modeled After an OpenAI launch, I think it's important to take one's feelings about the future impact of the technology with a HUGE grain of salt. OpenAI are masters of hype. They have been generating hype for years now, yet the real-world impacts remain modest so far. Do you remember when they teased GPT-2 as "too dangerous" for public access? I do. Yet we now ha…

It's well known that LLMs don't reason. That's not what they are for. It's a throw away comment to say that a product can't do what it explicitly is unable to do. Reasoning will require different architectures. Even with that LLMs are incredibly useful.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by moi2388 »

Dear OpenAI, either remember my privacy settings or open a temporary chat by default, this funny nonsense of typing in something only to find out you’re going to train on it is NOT a good experience.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by chaorace »

sznio wrote: post #905
Hugsun wrote: post #298

Very interesting and extremely impressive! I tried using the voice chat in their app previously and was disappointed. The big UX problem was that it didn't try to understand when I had finished speaking. English is a second language and I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to…

> many statements were reiterations of previous ones SEO spam got into the training data.

The funny thing actually is that repeating yourself is a really important communication skill. The model seems to have internalized that, but isn't yet quite at the level where it properly understands why/when to repeat.

It's probably related to GPT's more general sycophant inclinations. Acting like a doormat is apparently easier to teach than nuanced politeness -- much in the same way that repeating yourself ad nauseum is easier than intuiting specific points of emphasis.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by hbn »

lm28469 wrote: post #855
maaaaattttt wrote: post #783

Now that I see this, here is my wish (I know there are security privacy concerns but let's pretend there are not there for this wish): An app that runs on my desktop and has access to my screen(s) when I work. At any time I can ask it something about what's on the screen, it can jump in and let me know if it thinks I made a mistake (think pair programming) or a suggestion (drafting a document). It can also quickly ta…

1984's telescreens aren't something you're supposed to wish for

One of my favorite tweets:

    Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale

    Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus
https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538?...

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by DenisM »

wiz21c wrote: post #839

That woman's voice intonation is just scary .Not because it talks really well, but because it is always happy, optimistic, enthusiastic. And this echoes to what several of my employers idealized as a good employee. That's terrifying because those AI become what their master's think an engaging human should be. It's quite close to Bostondynamics di some years ago. what did they show ? You can hit a robot very hard whi…

I believe you might be looking for the term “toxic positivity”? I don’t necessarily subscribe to that description, but I see where you’re coming from.

It’s an interesting choice on their part. Probably targeted at a certain audience who are not grumpy software engineers (myself included).

To be fair, they do have a “sarcastic” voice demo and I found it quite endearing.

I think there will be something for everyone in the end.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

cal85 wrote: post #495

We've had voice input and voice output with computers for a long time, but it's never felt like spoken conversation. At best it's a series of separate voice notes. It feels more like texting than talking. These demos show people talking to artificial intelligence. This is new. Humans are more partial to talking than writing. When people talk to each other (in person or over low-latency audio) there's a rich metadata…

> Humans are more partial to talking than writing

I don't think that's generally true, other than for socializing with other humans.

Note how people, now having a choice, prefer to text each other most of the time rather than voice call.

I don't think people sitting at work in their cube farm want to be talking to their computer either. The main use for voice would seem to be for occasional use talking to an assistant on a smartphone.

Maybe things will change in the future when we get to full human AGI level, treating the AGI as an equal, more as a person.

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Post by interludead »

megous wrote: post #777
plaidfuji wrote: post #717

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

Why so much positivity? It can also murder people, and it will continue being used for that. That's scary.

Anything (almost) can be used for good and bad

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Post by geonnave »

maaaaattttt wrote: post #783

Now that I see this, here is my wish (I know there are security privacy concerns but let's pretend there are not there for this wish): An app that runs on my desktop and has access to my screen(s) when I work. At any time I can ask it something about what's on the screen, it can jump in and let me know if it thinks I made a mistake (think pair programming) or a suggestion (drafting a document). It can also quickly ta…

Something similar already exists, see https://www.rewind.ai/ and https://www.perfectmemory.ai/

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Post by mrtranscendence »

achow wrote: post #690
cal85 wrote: post #495

We've had voice input and voice output with computers for a long time, but it's never felt like spoken conversation. At best it's a series of separate voice notes. It feels more like texting than talking. These demos show people talking to artificial intelligence. This is new. Humans are more partial to talking than writing. When people talk to each other (in person or over low-latency audio) there's a rich metadata…

> Humans are more partial to talking than writing. Is it so? Speaking most of the time is for short exchange of information (pleasantries to essential information exchanges). I prefer writing for long in-depth thought exchanges (whether by emails, blogs etc.) In many cultures - European or Asian, people are not very loquacious in everyday life.

I wouldn't say speaking is mostly for short exchanges of information. Sometimes it's the opposite: my wife will text me for simple comments or requests, but for anything complicated she'll put the phone to her ear and call me. Or coworkers often want to set up a meeting rather than exchange a series of asynchronous emails -- iteration, brainstorming, Q&A, and the like can be more agile with voice than it can with text.
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