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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by QuadrupleA »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I'd suspect they're just trying to start over - Bard kinda got pegged as Google's dumb, not-as-good, late-to-the-party clone of ChatGPT. It got teased a lot. I'm not sure Gemini is much different (still more impressed with GPT 3.5 & 4) but I guess the name change gives them a bit of a reset.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by [deleted] »

glenstein wrote: post #849
chfalck wrote: post #841

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Interesting. I don’t like the name at all because it makes me think of people who take horoscopes seriously. You’re impression seems to be untainted by that which is nice

Same here, I think I'm more on your side which I guess goes to show how all over the map subjective reactions can be. But first of all, I thought the whole idea of alphabet was a kind of cheeky way of telling the world you had a portfolio of projects, one for each letter, And B is for bard would be perfect, and Gemini is about as incompatible as it gets given that g is claimed. I also find it bizarre to say that asso…

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by gnicholas »

wildrhythms wrote: post #933
gnicholas wrote: post #739

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My reading of the fine print (IAAL, FWIW) is that turning off Gemini Apps Activity does not affect whether human review is possible. It just means that your prompts won't be saved beyond 72 hours, unless they are reviewed by humans, in which case they can live on indefinitely in a location separate from your account. I also asked Gemini (not Ultra) and it told me that there is no way to prevent human review.

You thought they would feed internal user data handling policy to a public facing LLM?

Yes, I thought they would feed the LLM's FAQ to the LLM. As I said above, OpenAI did this with ChatGPT. They even fed data about how ChatGPT was created to ChatGPT.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by mckeed »

sahila wrote: post #791
QuantumGood wrote: post #789

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That is not the Monty Hall problem, it is a trick question based on the Monty Hall problem. It's a reasonable test, and I see GPT-4 recognizes the problem AS WRITTEN, and perhaps "the Dumb Monty Hall problem" is some generally accepted standard that I haven't encountered before. edit: "AS WRITTEN"

"Understands" is too strong of a word, more that it recognizes the problem as written. Here's yet a slight variation - just as simple - but changed enough it now is wrong. https://chat.openai.com/share/22a9027f-a2c1-428a-94a2-8fd918...

That's not GPT-4

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by bitmovements »

huytersd wrote: post #306
planb wrote: post #271

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Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong: LLMs cannot solve this kind of riddle. This has nothing to do with their capabilities for logical reasoning, but with the way words are represented as tokens. While they might know that "apples" has two syllables because that is mentioned somewhere in their training data, if you make up a fruit "bratush" a human will see that as two syllables, but this might be 1 to 7 tokens to…

Well I tried it out in GPT4 with made up words- Tabitha likes bratush but not zot. She likes protel but not kig, and she likes motsic but not pez. Following the same rule, will she like tridos or kip Given the examples, one speculative pattern could be that Tabitha likes words with at least two syllables or a certain complexity in structure. Therefore, following this speculative rule, Tabitha might like “tridos” more…

Zot is a word already being used in the world: verb. (slang) To zap, kill, or destroy.

So is protel: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protel

So is kig: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/kig

Pez is a well known brand name in America.

Kip is commonly used name in America.

Motsic is a fairly common last name from searching.

Tridos is used all over the internet as a brand name so this all seems probable to be in the training data.

These words are not new nor are they made up.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by dhruvmittal »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

One awkward thing is that Google's Gemini app is currently the third result searching Gemini on the Play Store-- after some bitcoin related applications. The namespace is occupied.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by ionwake »

0xfab1 wrote: post #879
rdsubhas wrote: post #859

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And it has ai in it's name.

If that's the reason, they should've gone with Moai (more AI)

thats even better lol. hey 缾 how come so few comments? you have a few accounts or what? I feel priviledged.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by lucumo »

Liskni_si wrote: post #498
27182818284 wrote: post #159

Search for it in the Play Store, first icons are Crypto.com and Gemini: Buy Bitcoin & Crypto options to install Scroll past the screenshots of those apps Scroll past the Limitied-time events Scroll past the You Might Also Like and Similar Apps OK now we see it, we install, it we launch it and..."Gemini isn't ccurrently available. Try again later." Bravo Google. Great launch.

It could be worse. Google Play in a browser: "This app is not available for your device" Google Play app: "This item is not available in your country." Aurora Store: "Download Failed. App not purchased" Great launch indeed. Bravo.

APKMirror has it, and it can be installed from there...

...but then I get "Location not supported" when I start it. Helpfully suggesting I use Google Assistant instead.

My main reason for trying Gemini is that I hope that it makes fewer errors than GAss, and be more powerful too. Operating Assistant's voice controls in the car might be more distracting than just typing. And that's just for reminders and Spotify playlists. Anything more powerful is completely impossible.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by DrSiemer »

glenstein wrote: post #849
chfalck wrote: post #841

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. I don’t like the name at all because it makes me think of people who take horoscopes seriously. You’re impression seems to be untainted by that which is nice

Same here, I think I'm more on your side which I guess goes to show how all over the map subjective reactions can be. But first of all, I thought the whole idea of alphabet was a kind of cheeky way of telling the world you had a portfolio of projects, one for each letter, And B is for bard would be perfect, and Gemini is about as incompatible as it gets given that g is claimed. I also find it bizarre to say that asso…

The name bard is tainted by ridicule.

Besides that, personally I always thought it was a bad fit. It sounds old and outdated to those that do not know what the word means and wrong to those that do: a bard sings songs and maybe does poetry.

A bard does not help or assist you. A bard can be a creative person, but is generally not considered especially wise or knowledgeable. A bard is also always a man, which does not gel very well with modern sensibilities.

I can see why they dropped it.

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