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Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by SergeAx »

fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

But there's actually nothing to improve in a modern smartphone. Not even better CPU and more RAM and storage, because we don't need them. The only nice to have thing would be a better battery life, but faster CPU and more RAM will only make battery life shorter.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by roudaki »

Keirmot wrote: post #817
fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

I fail to understand your point. What kind of feature do you to be excited to see in a product that is 16 years old? Do you think the and thing when you buy a new dishwasher, a couch, a chair? That it’s mediocre? Smartphones are not the future anymore, there’s people starting university soon that always had one, and never lived in a world without the iPhone. Also, besides arguably the first few iPhones, Apple never d…

Eye tracking. as someone who trains a lot of old and non tech people is still hard to explain why are interfaces so unaware of our face asp eyes

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by layer8 »

deadmutex wrote: post #838
mtillman wrote: post #303

Apple, I don’t want a giant phone that I have to carry in my hands. Make another mini version that costs less than $2k and you can have my money. I already have an iPad or several laptops that I can do “big” things on.

Zenphone 10 is here for you :)

The Zenfone 10 is actually taller than tbe regular iPhone.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by layer8 »

digbybk wrote: post #772
mtillman wrote: post #303

Apple, I don’t want a giant phone that I have to carry in my hands. Make another mini version that costs less than $2k and you can have my money. I already have an iPad or several laptops that I can do “big” things on.

Has the SE gotten bigger? I have an old SE that’s pretty small, I was hoping that when I upgraded I’d still have that option.

According to repeated rumors, the next SE will be 6.1".

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by rajnathani »

gnicholas wrote: post #509
nowooski wrote: post #342

It's pretty wild that Apple has held prices down the last few years in the face of elevated inflation. I decided to calculate the inflation-adjusted price of every iPhone ever, and the 15 line are some of the most affordable (in 2023 dollars). Full table and charts are here: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/iPhone15-price But the take aways are: - iPhone 15 is cheapest base model since the OG iPhone in 2007 - 15 Plus…

The cost of inputs has gone down. What has happened to the cost of storage and RAM (both commodities, I assume) over the last several years? They're still shipping "Pro" iPhones — that cost as much as a computer — with 128GB. That's one way to keep costs down, and to goose the demand for Apple's iCloud backup service.

Also, over the years they might have also been able to make their supply-chain operations a couple or so percent more cost-efficient each year.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by Aerbil313 »

axman6 wrote: post #830
nonane wrote: post #245

It also has a built-in AV1 Decoder! This is the first time Apple has indicated they're going to start using AV1!

The video side of things is super interesting - 4k60 ProRes is an absolutely insane amount of data (something like 12GB/s IIRC?), and the addition of ACES really makes it usable for professional work where a larger mirrorless from Sony/Panasonic/Nikon/Canon wouldn't be practical. I also found it very interesting that their pics of this feature were with Davinci Resolve on the screen and not Final cut Pro - I guess wh…

Are you serious on 12 GB/s? Does the memory even have that much bandwidth?

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by dreamcompiler »

Keirmot wrote: post #817
fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

I fail to understand your point. What kind of feature do you to be excited to see in a product that is 16 years old? Do you think the and thing when you buy a new dishwasher, a couch, a chair? That it’s mediocre? Smartphones are not the future anymore, there’s people starting university soon that always had one, and never lived in a world without the iPhone. Also, besides arguably the first few iPhones, Apple never d…

> What kind of feature do you to be excited to see in a product that is 16 years old?

How about an OS that's not walled-garden shite? One that any competent programmer could write an app for -- in any language they chose -- and offer for download to all comers without getting Apple's permission and without paying Apple a dime?

How about a development system built in to the phone so you could add a keyboard and a mouse and write an app, compile it, and install it without ever leaving the phone?

How about a 1/8" jack so I can listen privately on $15 wired buds from one of 1000 different suppliers without paying $300 for buds that are going to become e-waste as soon as their batteries refuse to charge?

How about being able to replace the main battery myself, in my home, without trashing the entire fu*king phone?

How about selling the phone with a decent protective case that still allows the Qi charger to work?

How about using formal methods to ensure some Israeli spyware group cannot constantly find zero-days in my phone and put my life in danger without constant after-the-fact patch-and-pray security upgrades?

I've been building chips, computers, and operating systems for decades. I know the subject like I know my own name. There is no technical reason Apple couldn't do all these things. They choose not to because not doing them makes Apple more money.

Apple is not refusing to do any of these things for cybersecurity or privacy reasons either. I eat, sleep, and breathe cybersecurity and I get paid for it. Apple could do everything on this list with zero security risk. They know this but they choose to lie and say otherwise.

Fuck apple and their horse. They are everything that is wrong with engineering under the control of rapacious capitalist greed.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by coffeeling »

bombcar wrote: post #11

Honestly for me the best part is the USB-C. Every year it's a new camera, new whatever, but USB-C is going to mean I can get rid of all these lightning cables. Not increasing the price is nice, I guess. Will have to buy more USB-C cables, though. (Technically the low highest end phone is higher, but higher spec, too). It comes with one USB-C to USB-C charging cable - not sure if it is a data cable, also. Pre-order Fr…

The fucked up part is they didn't update the Magic Trackpad and Magic Mouse to use USB-C, those are still stuck on Lightning.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by tim333 »

fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

>Tech is such an shitty abyss right now

I'd say tech is on a roll just now, but the action is in AI not in smartphones.

I mean phones are good but I was checking out the iphones 12, 13 and 14 the other day and it's a job telling which is which - they are all good.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by coffeeling »

SergeAx wrote: post #941
fieldcny wrote: post #791

This is honestly the saddest thing I’ve read in years, maybe even decades. Tech is such an shitty abyss right now, ten years ago people got excited because of truly revolutionary features , like cameras that were better than $1000 digital cameras, 4G that made the internet not just usable but fast biometrics that actually worked, on a phone, in your pocket, like holy fuck that was mind blowing. We’ve gone so far down…

But there's actually nothing to improve in a modern smartphone. Not even better CPU and more RAM and storage, because we don't need them. The only nice to have thing would be a better battery life, but faster CPU and more RAM will only make battery life shorter.

The new folding types are actually a meaningful improvement.
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