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Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by mindslight »

hedora wrote: post #852
genewitch wrote: post #761

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Verizon, who are well known for being affordable, honest, and "with the times", has announced they're going to bring back "cable" subscriptions - you give verizon a flat rate, and they get you all of the streaming services, presumably for less than you'd pay for them individually. Yes, the first part is obvious facetiousness.

I wish consumer protection laws applied to cell phone providers. I shopped around a while back, and walked into an AT&T, TMobile, and Verizon store. They all had big ass signs in the front window saying $25/month per line (with a bunch of fine print that can't be read from outside the store). Of course, none of them will honor that pricing. Also, none of them actually publish their prices. The best I got was some han…

At this point the only people left directly using the infrastructure companies don't care about money. For each of the infrastructure providers, there are many competitive MVNOs with prices plainly on their websites. You should be able to get a regular plan for ~$40/mo, and even a bare bones paygo for $10/3mo.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by gnicholas »

nasmorn wrote: post #939
gnicholas wrote: post #775

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Perhaps you have to designate a primary device, and then any of the secondary devices that access from the same IP can migrate for X weeks/months before having to be on the same IP as the primary?

That is going to be quite the schlep with his second houses tv every couple of weeks. I would cancel too

I assume he wouldn't care if TVs in other homes stay logged in when he's not there. As long as they work when he visits, wouldn't that be enough? It could be annoying if another family member goes there for a week and it won't log in because the primary device isn't present.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by webmobdev »

bragr wrote: post #609
webmobdev wrote: post #595

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According to a TF article in 2012 - https://torrentfreak.com/top-bittorrent-countries-in-the-wor... - Spain was one of the top 10 countries of torrent downloaders. Is there any statistics of torrent users (by country) for 2023? It will be interesting to see if those million outraged spanish Netflix users have now turned to torrenting Netflix shows.

Are torrents even the primary methods of piracy now? That's an actual question: I get the impression that a lot of piracy has switched to grey market file hosting and streaming sites, but I don't have the perspective to say if that's accurate.

I guess it depends on the market. In India, all streaming and file hosting sites with pirated tv / movies materials are immediately blocked now. As are nearly all torrent sites. But sharing torrent magnet links are still easier and cheaper than trying to bypass the ISP blocks. And once someone downloads something, it gets shared around a lot.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by redeeman »

ho_schi wrote: post #569

Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…

didnt they always require shitty DRM?

no thanks, they can keep their shit

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by bushbaba »

hedora wrote: post #852
genewitch wrote: post #761

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Verizon, who are well known for being affordable, honest, and "with the times", has announced they're going to bring back "cable" subscriptions - you give verizon a flat rate, and they get you all of the streaming services, presumably for less than you'd pay for them individually. Yes, the first part is obvious facetiousness.

I wish consumer protection laws applied to cell phone providers. I shopped around a while back, and walked into an AT&T, TMobile, and Verizon store. They all had big ass signs in the front window saying $25/month per line (with a bunch of fine print that can't be read from outside the store). Of course, none of them will honor that pricing. Also, none of them actually publish their prices. The best I got was some han…

Disagree here. T-Mobile’s advertised price is what I pay. Yes it’s with their “autopay” discount. But they’ve not had hidden fees.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by zaphirplane »

fwsgonzo wrote: post #866
zaphirplane wrote: post #791

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I disagree, if cracking down on friends and different households sharing passwords means I get it cheaper than I’m ok with that. Their implementation allows people to use their tablet / phone / setup box/ streaming device in multiple locations. Since the technology isn’t available to cater for people living and paying for multiple house holds the options are everyone pays extra or the very very few people that can af…

You get it cheaper? How? We even have inflation caused by greed and greed only.

Inflation is caused by the Covid fiscal policies and the money the government gave out to keep those financially impacted afloat but was also abused by many people

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by shkkmo »

taeric wrote: post #938
shkkmo wrote: post #928

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> My point was that nobody has ever used household for two houses. Ever. If you can find a place that has been done, I'd be swayed. But I have never ever seen that. Then maybe you should have spent some time looking before so strongly asserting something that is flat out wrong. Go look at some definitions. There are plenty of legal definitions, in addition to dictionary ones, that clearly contradict your take. The ke…

Point me to some. Seriously, the definition linked here clearly has household as the combination. Where are households defined as multiple houses? For fun, try https://www.prb.org/resources/what-is-a-household/ which says "A household is defined by the U.S. Census Bureau as all the people who occupy a single housing unit, regardless of their relationship to one another." Did they get it wrong? https://www.census.gov/…

The census is a great example. If a person is at a location, such as vacation home, when the census counts them, the census counts them as at the location that they sleep at the most. You don't stop being a part of a household just because you're spending the weekend at your cabin.

Even if your 10 person household has 11 homes, 1 primary home where everyone sleeps 183 days a year and 10 vacation homes where each sleeps the other 182 days a year, that would still be counted as a 10 person household by the census.

And both those linked definition make clear the basic point that you are still apparently failing to grasp. The referrent of "household" is the people who share their primary residence, not the residence itself.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by Havoc »

12907835202 wrote: post #721

I don't understand why people are in such uproar over netflix pricing. $10 a month is an incredible price for what you get. There's not alot you can do for $10 these days. You can barely grab lunch in lots of places. And you're talking about a whole month where many people use it for hours every evening? Imagine Netflix was $1 or $2 to unlock for 24 hours. I think alot of people would consider that fair. Many would p…

> There's not alot you can do for $10 these days. You can barely grab lunch in lots of places.

You’re likely in a high cost of living location. 10 usd goes far in large parts of the world

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by alam2000 »

anonymousiam wrote: post #667
ho_schi wrote: post #569

Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…

I've got two houses across two states where any one us (four) can be at any time. If they start blocking based on IP geo-location, I'll drop them immediately.

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