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Post by candybar »

pyinstallwoes wrote: post #502
andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

It shows collusion with politicians to coordinate censorship.

Collusion implies coordinating on something illegal or worth hiding from the public - what exactly is the alleged wrongdoing? That Twitter had people that worked with both presidential campaigns to expedite the review of moderation requests? I mean, by this definition, what interaction between private institutions and politicians doesn't qualify as collusion? Like what principles are even being violated here?

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by objectivetruth »

jacooper wrote: post #46

I don't follow or give attention to American politics, I don't live in America, and probably never will. But the Left bias in Social media is extremely concerning, its so apparent from the type of people who work in tech, especially in Silicon valley, that they have a Leftist bias, whether the Left or the Right are correct doesn’t matter. The issue is Social media in our time is it’s where a lot of people form opinio…

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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by lazyeye »

M4v3R wrote: post #596
trentgreene wrote: post #566

Could someone explain to me how twitter has any legal obligation to provide a platform supporting all types of 1A protected content? Doesn’t that violate the owner of twitters 1A rights? If I owned a message board, and started deleting users post at random, or because of personal taste, would that be a 1A violation? I may or may not be an asshole, but it’s my message board. There are other parallels I can draw, but t…

Honest answer (IANAL): it doesn’t have legal obligation to support all kinds of free speech. But in my opinion that’s because the governments fail to recognize these huge, influential social platforms for what they really are - utilities. They become pervasive and essential in lives of most people in the developed countries. And as such there should exist some checks and balances to make sure these platforms are not…

Yes the town square has been both monopolised and privatised.

And there's now been this complete role reversal where Democrats (the "great defenders of democracy") are arguing that private media companies can do whatever they like.

And conservatives are arguing that there needs to be a govt intervention with these companies.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by DoubleDerper »

Dig1t wrote: post #16

I'm a moderate, not a Democrat and not a Republican. I think people on the left have a blind spot here, that the more suppression they use, the more division they create, and the more moderates and people on the right grow to resent them. I would have identified as a Democrat on pretty much every issue, but this authoritarian suppression of speech and ideas has just pushed me away from that side completely. At this p…

ranked choice voting can chip away at polarization.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by grappler »

The takeaway for me is that anyone who doesn't like large centralized social networks having and using this kind of influence over the dissemination of information, whether because you didn't like twitter's earlier management or because you don't like its new management by Elon, or some other reason, should be cheering the recent growth in the fediverse of decentralized social networking sites.

https://the-federation.info/

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by lazyeye »

tomrod wrote: post #921
andy_ppp wrote: post #731

If you’re on the right this is proof that Twitter is out of control and stole the election from Trump. If you’re on the left these are boring internal emails discussing what to do about hacked laptop information released at an optimal moment to smear a presidential candidate because of things done by his son. I’m more inclined to believe number 2 but then I would be wouldn’t I. I don’t really think there’s something…

> If you’re on the left these are boring internal emails discussing what to do about hacked laptop information released at an optimal moment to smear a presidential candidate because of things done by his son. This is the default position. Your classifier would be better suited as "if you're susceptible to right-wing propaganda and disinformation" versus not.

What nonsense. Being concerned with Twitter's behaviour is neither "right-wing propaganda or disinformation". Your comment might be considered disinformation though.

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Post by yonaguska »

andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

There was no evidence that any of the information was hacked, specifically no evidence that any foreign govt was involved in procuring the information either. So Twitter wasn't following their own policy/justification about "hacked" materials. Taibbi states this in tweet number 22.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by archsurface »

archsurface wrote: post #399
anoonmoose wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1- Biden wasn't in government, he was running for office. Private citizen at the time. 2- They weren't telling, they were asking, and if Twitter feels like they were told, they can sue the government for violating their First Amendment rights.

When an authority asks, they're not really asking, they're telling.

Downvotes for such a simple truth - this is why the police shoot.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by tomrod »

lazyeye wrote: post #946
tomrod wrote: post #921

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you’re on the left these are boring internal emails discussing what to do about hacked laptop information released at an optimal moment to smear a presidential candidate because of things done by his son. This is the default position. Your classifier would be better suited as "if you're susceptible to right-wing propaganda and disinformation" versus not.

What nonsense. Being concerned with Twitter's behaviour is neither "right-wing propaganda or disinformation". Your comment might be considered disinformation though.

Nah, it's pretty clear the laptop is a weak sauce nothingburger argument that the GOP propaganda machine has projected themselves into. Imma stay out of that nonsense and note that internal Twitter disinformation moderation policy has no impact on my life and on the lives of everyone on this thread, unless the individuals are specifically employed by disinformation campaigners.

Keep calm and carry on.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by etchalon »

nodesocket wrote: post #606

How come I can't find this story on the front page of: - CNN - CNBC - New York Times - LA Times However, stories about how people are "fleeing" Twitter, Twitter is losing more advertising revenue, and Kanye are readily on the front pages?

Because there's nothing new to the story yet, beyond a Twitter thread, some speculative accusations unsupported by the evidence posted, and some massive misunderstandings of the first amendment, and who was in power when.

"Moderators at Twitter made a rash call, chaos ensued, and reversed course" was already wildly known.

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