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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by serial_dev »

fomine3 wrote: post #767
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I don't think it's as much a culture difference as you think, more like the environment where we use the cars. I'm from Europe, living in bigger European city, and I have a small car (3-door RAV4). I bought it so I can drive and park easily in the city and go up hills and mountains when I leave the city once a month. And if I'm honest, that is the best car I could afford. I see lots of rich people with bigger and big…

> small car > RAV4 Viewpoint from Japan: is it small?. I feel same thing for BMW Mini because it's bigger width than average on the road.

It's a three door version, 3860 mm long. It's about as much as the shortest Mini model. It's amongst the shortest cars around here, Renault Twingo, and "smart" cars are shorter, but nothing else comes to my mind that would be significantly shorter than the RAV4.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by Markoff »

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List of smaller Android phones with decent specs: Pixel 5 - 144.7 x 70.4 x 8 mm Samsung S22 - 146 x 70.6 x 7.6 mm Zenfone 8 - 148 x 68.5 x 8.9 mm (could be higher thanks to narrower body) Xiaomi 12X - 152.7 x 69.9 x 8.2 mm Samsung S21 - 151.7 x 71.2 x 7.9 mm Sony doesn't produce phones, but remote controls. Their software is nice clean, but their camera is pretty bad, might as well buy Zenfone 8 if you don't mind cam…

Probably not what you would deem decent specs .. but small. SHIFT5me - 141,5 mm x 71 mm x 9 mm https://shop.shiftphones.com/shift5me.html

only 3mm shorter, but other dimensions bigger than pixel 5 plus MUCH smaller display thanks to huge bezels

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by gambiting »

zmix wrote: post #867
grishka wrote: post #457

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Yes, I'm as frustrated as you are. I want a no-compromise 4" Android phone, comfortably usable with one hand. For me, the phone is a communication device for the outside, that's it. I hardly use it at home except for calls. My primary device is my laptop. I have exactly zero use cases that would benefit from a large screen, yet all of my use cases would benefit from being able to fully use it one-handed. I don't watc…

Why is the headphone jack so important? These days there are very good wireless earbuds. Except as FM antenna or to plug into legacy devices...

>>These days there are very good wireless earbuds.

Yes, and now I ended up in an idiotic situation where I have to have a pair for every device I own, because switching bluetooth connections is an unbelivable pain in the ass. No such problems with wired - you only need one pair, you plug them in, they work, end of story.

Not to mention issues like audio sync, which is just broken as hell. As an example, using top of the line headphones(sony MX4s) + a top of the line phone(Galaxy S21), audio isn't in sync with anything other than youtube. Playing games? Enjoy hearing your shots 1s after you fire them. And using them with windows? Now everything is slightly out of sync, because windows is a flaming pile of garbage when it comes to bluetooth audio.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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tasuki wrote: post #578
serial_dev wrote: post #105

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I don't think it's as much a culture difference as you think, more like the environment where we use the cars. I'm from Europe, living in bigger European city, and I have a small car (3-door RAV4). I bought it so I can drive and park easily in the city and go up hills and mountains when I leave the city once a month. And if I'm honest, that is the best car I could afford. I see lots of rich people with bigger and big…

> I would have been obviously happier if I could have a 300sqm house. This is not necessarily true, though something people often believe.

Okay, let's remove the "obviously" from my quote. Everybody is different.

In my case, I don't see why I would be sad over having a bit more place. It would be nice to have a place for an office, a small home gym, bigger kitchen, dining room, terrace with a BBQ, etc.

I'm not saying it would solve every problem in my life, but it would make a couple of things less inconvenient.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by CurrentB »

Don't have much to add here but I desperately feel the need to +1 this in case any manufacturers are paying attention. Every phone I bought was google's latest flagship since the G1 came out, including the most recent pixel 6 (non pro). I absolutely hate the size of it and went back to my pixel 4. I really am disappointed that google is forcing me to shop around more, and that apparently there aren't any great options.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by hanche »

shmel wrote: post #914
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A recent discussion on this at my work was centred around the notion that large phones don't generally fit in women's clothes pockets (when they have pockets), as the pockets tend to be smaller. There seems to be an inherent sexism in phone design (and clothing design, and many other things).

Overwhelming majority of women I know always carry a purse. I have yet to see a phone that doesn't fit into the smallest purse.

That is very culture dependent, I think. I don’t know a single woman who usually carries a purse! (I live in Norway. And maybe my acquaintances are unusual. But still.)

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by dont__panic »

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Very much the same situation for me. I'm especially interested in why Eric doesn't mention the headphone jack -- does he simply think it isn't a noteworthy feature, and assume the phone WILL have the jack? Or does he assume that bluetooth is the future and only silly luddites like us care about the jack? I hope Eric eases up on the weirdly specific requirements, like dual rear cameras, symmetrical bezels, and a punch…

I am more concerned about the lack of a microSD card slot.

I'd love a microSD card slot as well. I suspect, though, that it's less popular a feature than the headphone jack. Until 2016, almost every single smartphone had a headphone jack. Maybe 50% of phones at best had microSD card slots.

That being said... the Xperia compact series is all the proof you need that a small phone can have it all. Good battery life, flagship camera (though understandably you won't have as many sensors as a giant phone), a headphone jack, a microSD card, good battery life, waterproofing, a fingerprint sensor...

It's such a shame that people continually insist that technology we HAD in 2012-2016 is impossible today. All I want is an Xperia Z3 Compact with modern bands and software support.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by hedora »

perardi wrote: post #6

“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini” So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space? --- I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consum…

From looking at other sites, the SE greatly outsells the mini (22M in 2020, projected 30M in 2022). It is typically Apple's #2 seller. If you add that in with the mini numbers, then it tells a different story.

Also, during the pandemic, faceid didn't work in public. People looking for a small phone had to choose between a more expensive model with more cameras and cheaper phone with working biometric authentication.

That skews all sorts of market share stats. Anyway, annual sales by model (the SEs are usually released at a different time of year) would make for a more meaningful comparison than calendar Q1 sales starting after Christmas and ending a few weeks after the SE launch.

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