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Post by SergeAx »

watwut wrote: post #406
SergeAx wrote: post #370

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For eggs it is about the same, egg's white is thin enough on a skillet and its down side is fully immersed into oil.

This is just not true. Not even if you have a single egg on super large pan. And you can also use smaller pan or more eggs, that way it will be even higher. Just because you have drowning eggs in oil does not mean everyone does it that way.

Comment I was replying to meant crispiness. That means frying in oil, in my experience. Do you know another way to get crispy texture on cast iron skillet?

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Post by sinsterizme »

gruez wrote: post #888
sinsterizme wrote: post #641

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A pan would conceivably be used thousands of times over its lifetime, so I still see these amounts as pertinent

I don't dispute that the amounts are "pertinent", whatever that means, but going back to the original claim of the pans being "poisonous", I'm not sure the concentration is high enough to warrant that. The first result for maximum allowed concentration for PFAS is drinking water says it's 0.3 ug/L[1]. It's hard to compare drinking water standards to atmospheric standards, but at least intuitively it seems to be sever…

According to this [1] the limit for PFAS in the states ranges from 13 ng/L - 1000 ng/L. So it’s on the same order of magnitude. I also would guess that the limits are conservative, just because it’s so wide-spread already.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-018-0099-9

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Post by tintedfireglass »

hackernewds wrote: post #655
tristor wrote: post #378

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> Also, claiming that they "seem to be poisonous" without any qualifiers is a little misleading. To my knowledge they're only poisonous during manufacturing (ie. the precursor chemicals) and when they get too hot. 1. The manufacturing process results in those precursor chemicals entering urban water supplies where they are nearly impossible to filter out (only RO is effective and it's not even 100% effective), and on…

cast iron is still not a viable alternative for every day cooking due to leeching of the iron into food - some iron is good, but usually this occurs at extraordinary levels

Stainless steel, Aluminum, Copper, etc. There are many replacements for Teflon which don't leach (I guess aluminum leaches but not sure).

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by molszanski »

asdff wrote: post #516
molszanski wrote: post #480

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This is interesting. For me shaving with DE razor is miles ahead in comfort over cartridge

The thing is it takes skill and time to get there. Look at the reddit groups with everyone having some favorite brush or soap lather. The first few times you do it will probably go terribly too, maybe even ongoing. Meanwhile, 3 blade gillete can do an OK job with only a splash of water and a dozen strokes if you were in a true pinch. the skinguard is even better than old man mach 3. in a world where a pint of beer at…

> The thing is it takes skill and time to get there.

This is interesting too, because it worked for me on the first / second try. Didn't have any learning curve at all. And I didn't use any fancy foam or anything. Just a regular cheap ~$2 foam / gel from the supermarket

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Post by canuckintime »

DonaldFisk wrote: post #881
chaps wrote: post #869

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On soap/shaving foam -- absolutely. I asked an old-timey barber what his product of choice was and he answered "soap after a shower", in awe, as if what I was asking him some obvious question. Sure enough, it worked fantastically and I haven't stopped since. I use a DE and beyond that first month of slice and dice and coagulant markers, it's been smooth sailing since.

You don't even need soap. Your stubble will be saturated and easily shaveable immediately after the shower.

My problem was with the fogged up mirror after a shower. I tried some 'solutions' (spraying mirror with a fog proofing liquid, separate showering room etc) but eventually went back to shaving before showering

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Post by hnfong »

mgraczyk wrote: post #680

I appreciate the writing style, but this article is shockingly naive to me. Convenient consumer products tend to sell better than less convenient ones, even if the product is worse. That's the entire story. People have finite time, so when they receive more income they will tend to spend it to reduce the time they spend doing things that they don't care about. I for one hate spending time doing all the things that th…

Totally agree with your points.

On the other extreme, (and due to my personal interest in practicing knife sharpening), I ended up using a pocket knife and a couple quality sharpening stones as my “razor”. Too lazy to calculate whether the long term cost is worth it, but the setup will probably last me a lifetime. If avoiding waste is really the highest priority (over convenience) then I would argue that sharpening your own razor blade is the only rational way to shave.

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Post by watwut »

SergeAx wrote: post #941
watwut wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just not true. Not even if you have a single egg on super large pan. And you can also use smaller pan or more eggs, that way it will be even higher. Just because you have drowning eggs in oil does not mean everyone does it that way.

Comment I was replying to meant crispiness. That means frying in oil, in my experience. Do you know another way to get crispy texture on cast iron skillet?

You have a bit of oil under the egg.

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Post by jokethrowaway »

morsch wrote: post #310
mirker wrote: post #200

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For coffee: French press + grinder is straightforward and has little maintenance. Machines have to be descaled.

Or just get a super automatic espresso machine. More convenient than a Nespresso, better taste, essentially zero waste. Higher initial investment (~300 EUR), lower running costs.

Get a Delonghi Dedica ec685, you can find it at ~150€. It's the cheapest good machine I can think of.

It comes with a pressurised filter so you can throw whatever ground coffee you buy in the supermarket and it will make a decent espresso.

If you want to take it to the next level you should buy a non pressurised filter, good fresh coffee in beans and an extra 300 for a good electric grinder.

That's pretty much the cheapest setup I can think of to make a good espresso.

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Post by gehwartzen »

beloch wrote: post #834
mgraczyk wrote: post #680

I appreciate the writing style, but this article is shockingly naive to me. Convenient consumer products tend to sell better than less convenient ones, even if the product is worse. That's the entire story. People have finite time, so when they receive more income they will tend to spend it to reduce the time they spend doing things that they don't care about. I for one hate spending time doing all the things that th…

Modern trackball,flexing, etc. multi-blade razors are expensive, but idiot proof. You can copy one of the Gillette commercials and just mash the thing to your face and make one long stroke through the chemical foam. Bam. Done. If you're happy with this, be happy. Read no further. What this article isn't telling you is that DE razors can be almost as fast, but there's a learning curve. They don't flex, bend, or rotate…

OneBlade type razors are kind of a nice compromise for me. They have a single replaceable blade but also a pivoting style head. The shave if pretty amazing compared to any cartridge razor I've tried and the blade just snaps in and out of place so isn't any more difficult to change out than a cartridge.

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Post by devilbunny »

canuckintime wrote: post #945
DonaldFisk wrote: post #881

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You don't even need soap. Your stubble will be saturated and easily shaveable immediately after the shower.

My problem was with the fogged up mirror after a shower. I tried some 'solutions' (spraying mirror with a fog proofing liquid, separate showering room etc) but eventually went back to shaving before showering

Antifog coatings from any scuba supply shop help, but one really effective method is just to aim a hair dryer at the spot you need clear. Not only does it get rid of fogging there, it prevents new condensation from forming because of the residual heat.
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