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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by sullyj3 »

MaximumYComb wrote: post #813
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #748

A few reflections on this announcement. 1) Remember that CEOs of public companies are essentially unable to say what they think or want. The cost of doing it is being sued for damages, having to spend countless hours with lawyers, etc. Jack might think X, but he's only allowed to say Y, and he doesn't want to go beyond that because he doesn't want to fight that fight. Only people in a close circle really know what's…

I lean moderately left and I really disagree with #3. The explosion of voices is only ones that are "allowed". Twitter is one of the biggest offenders of cancel culture (i.e. silencing people).

That stuff is an issue, but it's nothing compared to positive effects arising from an increased ability for people to communicate and coordinate in actual oppressive states

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by nradov »

jessaustin wrote: post #925
aerosmile wrote: post #843

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. We can speculate why Jack left, but the lagging stock price certainly didn't help him. So if anything, rather than criticizing him for not giving away the content fo…

The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. Twitter never "paid the bills" under his leadership. That's what added insult to the injury of removing previous open functionality: they pissed everybody off and di…

Would the influencers actually pay, or just move to TikTok and Instagram?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by csallen »

jessaustin wrote: post #925
aerosmile wrote: post #843

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. We can speculate why Jack left, but the lagging stock price certainly didn't help him. So if anything, rather than criticizing him for not giving away the content fo…

The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. Twitter never "paid the bills" under his leadership. That's what added insult to the injury of removing previous open functionality: they pissed everybody off and di…

I think you have it backwards, or at least you're missing half of the equation. The influencers are also valuable to Twitter, not just the other way around.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by ycombinete »

__float wrote: post #899
StevePerkins wrote: post #820

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Realistically speaking, Twitter has "done more good than harm (unlike Facebook)" because: 1. Younger and left-leaning outrage tends to dominate on Twitter. 2. Older and right-leaning outrage tends to dominate on Facebook. 3. Any conclusions are going to be subjective AF accordingly, and HN is a more young and left-leaning cohort. All social media is a double-edged sword, under the most charitable view.

That's a weird conclusion to come to. There is a ton of alt-right, extremist content on Twitter. Not just in English, mind you.

And a lot of it is young

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by eclipxe »

riffic wrote: post #926
jessaustin wrote: post #925

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. Twitter never "paid the bills" under his leadership. That's what added insult to the injury of removing previous open functionality: they pissed everybody off and di…

holy crap, yes, this is exactly how Twitter can monetize decentralization. Charge the kardashian clan x amount of dollars to run a managed version of Twitter's software on kardashian.com and allow for full interoperability with other services that speak a common protocol (the w3c has a protocol. use it!) you can also have governments and other institutional actors running the hosted software (then you can have @AOC@H…

Yeah, this won't work.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by idnefju »

mjamil wrote: post #608

I'm in a post-Thanksgiving charitable mood, so thank you, Jack. The execution hasn't been perfect (as has been commented on ad nauseam), but Twitter is the closest to a worldwide-accessible [1] Speaker's Corner [2] I know of, and that - despite all the completely valid criticism - is a valuable public service: mediating access to information has been the defining tool of control for those in power pretty much since c…

vehemently disagree, Twitter has been at the forefront for human misery. Alongside facebook and instagram.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by riffic »

nradov wrote: post #942
jessaustin wrote: post #925

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. Twitter never "paid the bills" under his leadership. That's what added insult to the injury of removing previous open functionality: they pissed everybody off and di…

Would the influencers actually pay, or just move to TikTok and Instagram?

it's less about where the influencers move to and more about where the audience moves to (they're the ones that view ads).

Everyone knows that audiences can go anywhere (every time there's been a huge technological shift they've made the jump - Radio -> Television. Newspapers -> Twitter et cetera). Influencers go where the engagement is. What I'm trying to say is pay attention to where the audience is at.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by PStamatiou »

nvr219 wrote: post #919
mrpopo wrote: post #895

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If your goal is personal monetary profit, maybe. Is it the case of Jack? Why want more when you already have too much

Because at a certain point money becomes an addiction.

https://twitter.com/jack/status/1247616214769086465

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by khazhoux »

herdcall wrote: post #902
StevePerkins wrote: post #820

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Realistically speaking, Twitter has "done more good than harm (unlike Facebook)" because: 1. Younger and left-leaning outrage tends to dominate on Twitter. 2. Older and right-leaning outrage tends to dominate on Facebook. 3. Any conclusions are going to be subjective AF accordingly, and HN is a more young and left-leaning cohort. All social media is a double-edged sword, under the most charitable view.

OK, "Younger and left-leaning outrage tends to dominate on Twitter" ^ "Older and right-leaning outrage tends to dominate on Facebook" => Twitter has "done more good than harm (unlike Facebook)?" That's ageism of first order right there.

I think his point was that because "good" is entirely subjective, and since HN aligns with Twitter, HN subjectively will consider Twitter good.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by [deleted] »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #259

It will be interesting to see how Twitter changes as a result. Twitter with selective following and setting your timeline to 'time order' creates a pretty good environment for me. It feels like the equivalent of living in only a few chosen 'subreddits' rather than getting the full frontal reddit experience.

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