A fair warning to developers: You're getting into an adventure with M1. From docker images not built for M1 with segmentation faults on qemu (eg. Liquibase for spring developers), to _significant_ troubles trying to make React native apps build with the M1 and XCode. Don't get me wrong, I have a Macbook air M1 and I love it, but it hasn't been a love without pain. Also, the magsafe feels like it comes too late. Almos…
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#942as beautiful as the hardware is, I just cannot stomach buying another machine I can not comfortably replace the battery in. Either Apple returns to its earliest roots of making machines that are easy to repair, or find me and many others buying machines from the likes of Frame.work instead.
Is it difficult to replace the battery in these new models? I changed the battery in my 2016-ish macbook air in about 5 minutes, and it looks like my 2018 macbook pro is the same design.
The Air models have different designs. As the other commenter pointed out, you're probably referring to the early 2017 Air, for which battery replacement is a breeze. The 2018+ Air has adhesive pull strips, making replacement relatively easy: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Air+13%E2%80%9D+Retina+...
If Apple hasn't switched to adhesive pull strips for these models, it's very disingenuous to advertise that they were "Designed with the earth in mind" like this website says. The battery is the only "consumable" component in the laptop, so it's completely unacceptable for it not to be designed for replacement.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/07/2018-macbook-air-batter...
> the battery can be individually replaced in the new MacBook Air [...] In all other MacBook and MacBook Pro models with a Retina display released since 2012, when a customer has required a battery replacement, Apple has replaced the entire top case enclosure, including the keyboard and trackpad.
This implies that (at least from 2016-2019) they were replacing the entire top case assembly in MBP.
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#943I am not interested in Apple's ecosystem. While I stay with X86 I wonder if and when AMD and Intel will catch up. Or if another ARM chip maker will release a chip as good but without tying it to a proprietary system.
At this point, I think AMD and Intel are _at least_ 5 years away from being competitive if they shifted all R&D to ARM and started funneling insane amounts of money into it. Without that shift in focus though, it could be a decade? More? Apple has funneled all of their success from mobile straight to the desktop, and they are actively watching any competition for a sign of increased development. This is basically sti…
The next generation of Intel CPUs Alder Lake, that also has a split between performance and efficiency cores, showed some promising numbers in current leaks and should be competitive with the M1 Max in CPU bound workloads. Where Apple shines are all this proprietary additions to the CPU that are massively going to benefit content creators (video & audio), but I as a developer don't think I can profit much from it and prefer to stick to open standards and technologies.
I'm also super excited and can't wait to see what the next years bring us. As you said it, we are going to be the biggest winners here.
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#944I’m seriously considering buying a middle-spec M1 MBP, and I also have a preorder for a DIY Edition Framework laptop[0]. I realize devices which give users more freedom to tinker, repair, customize, improve, etc. may never compete for market share with locked-down devices which are harder to repair, upgrade, and recycle, but my hope is that the former will at least remain a viable option. It’s tempting to splurge on…
Well, you get to vote with your wallet. I'm also considering between the M1 Pro and Framework Laptop but not sure the Framework will be at par with what Apple delivers functions-wise. Regarding Framework using intel chip, I haven't really seen a strong argument comparing its specs with that of M1 other than the repairability. I'm not quite sure that's everyone's priority. Sure, if you've ever spent 2k repairing your…
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#945Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…
I wish the non-Apple ecosystem gave a clear alternative that allows us to choose specs like this :-( I look at Lenovo Thinkpad with Ryzen 5000 CPUs, they are stuck with crappy displays. Dell has better displays but not the Ryzens CPUs I wanted. Framework is modular but no Ryzen. Nothing makes me want to open my wallet. I’d love almost exactly a MacBook Pro spec with M1Max replaced by Ryzen 5000 series CPU and 64 GiB…
It runs loud af, fan is constantly pulsing, but it's an alright machine for ~1200eu.
It's now going on ebay to fund the mbp purchase, I want better thermals out of my laptop.
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#946Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.
Did they remove it? I checked my wifes Macbook Air (the one with 2 USB-C ports) and it has headphone jack, did they remove it only in MacBooks Pro?
> increased key travel
Is that good? I prefer smaller key travel, makes typing faster.
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#948As someone that has felt many years stuck with his MBP mid 2014 all I can say is: Shut up and take my money.
2012 MacBook Air here. Yep, I ordered a new 16" machine minutes ago. It's funny how people on the internet were crying, "16GB is completely unusable!" Ummm... I have 4GB, and it works fine for everything. I'm even running Catalina. Maybe it's not good for games? I don't play computer games. Maybe that's where all the teeth-gnashing and kiddie posturing comes from.
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#949HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
I am very curios about this laptop thickness topic. I understand that going from 3 cm laptop to 2 cm is a noticeable difference and might have some practical effects. I can believe that 3cm laptop does not fit the bag well, but 2cm does. But here we go from 1.8cm to 1.55 cm, does this make any practical, visible difference?
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#950Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.
> headphone Did they remove it? I checked my wifes Macbook Air (the one with 2 USB-C ports) and it has headphone jack, did they remove it only in MacBooks Pro? > increased key travel Is that good? I prefer smaller key travel, makes typing faster.