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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by fornowiamhere »

concordDance wrote: post #918
belter wrote: post #515

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the least of their problems and I am amazed none of their executives is not yet in jail: "The children selling explicit videos on OnlyFans" https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57255983

Honestly I don't see what the problem is with a 17 year old getting some money for posting pics... That's a lot of money they can earn. Claims about this "damaging" them seem about as speculative as 1960s claims that homosexual behaviour is damaging.

OK, let's say that 17 is fine. What about just a year younger? Maybe only 6 months? As a society(well, mostly), it was decided to draw it at 18. Where do YOU draw the line?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by captainmuon »

skrtskrt wrote: post #94

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

This seems almost like an automatism by now, that platforms pivot away from sexual content after a while. Remember, in the beginning Snapchat was considered a sexting app where you could safely send nudes, although it was not advertized as such. They moved to a more regular social app after some time.

Tinder was initially sometimes described as an app to find people nearby who want to hook up. Like a one-night-stand-radar. It quickly positioned itself as more traditional dating app (although very focused on visuals).

And although not sexual, I think what happend to YikYak is similar. They started as this anarchic platform where you anonymously could talk shit about local topics and people. And then they realized that is probably not what they want because it causes outrage, so they tried to nerf that aspect (which is the whole allure of the platform).

Sometimes the sanitizing works (Snapchat), sometimes it kills the app (Tumblr, YikYak). But in any case I'd wish there would still be a place for the anarchic, 'unmoral', wild ideas in our society.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by concordDance »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #798
perardi wrote: post #207

Wow, you spend years thinking crypto is convoluted nonsense…and then something comes along that impacts a lot of your friends, and you start to change your mind. I have a fair number† of friends and acquaintances who have OnlyFans. Some for side income, some for a substantial portion of their livelihood. And to see that get taken away because the payment processors want them to fall in line…I guess I’m on the crypto…

You are blaming the wrong party! Your friends shouldn't rely on income from one customer who holds all the cards (did your friends negotiate a contract with OF with the help of a lawyer?). Lesson learned for them. They can now run their own sites and do marketing etc. themselves and learn how to run a business.

Yet more skills they have to have... also, I presume OnlyFans helps with the pipeline. (Much more likely to be comfortable clicking on an onlyfans link than a link to an unknown website)

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by concordDance »

globular-toast wrote: post #930
taylodl wrote: post #257

Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

Firstly, I don't believe you. I'm sure those girls have something to offer society besides showing their bodies for cash. They just don't bother trying because they don't have to. Second, OnlyFans is an abusive relationship. It's using women during the few years they are attractive enough to exploit the instincts of men. The instant their looks wear off, they're out.

They're working a job that requires little work for good pay, not sure how this is any more abusive than any other job without a career path.

Note that OnlyFans doesn't kick out the older people, they just get less popular.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by concordDance »

fornowiamhere wrote: post #941
concordDance wrote: post #918

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I don't see what the problem is with a 17 year old getting some money for posting pics... That's a lot of money they can earn. Claims about this "damaging" them seem about as speculative as 1960s claims that homosexual behaviour is damaging.

OK, let's say that 17 is fine. What about just a year younger? Maybe only 6 months? As a society(well, mostly), it was decided to draw it at 18. Where do YOU draw the line?

I don't draw it at age, I draw it at coercion. If someone is pressuring someone else into uploading nakes pics that's bad, age would just be an aggravating factor in the badness when deciding how much to punish.

While the idea of a six year old uploading naked pics makes me extremely uncomfortable I think that's a parenting issue (something has probably gone very wrong and that's what needs fixing, not the symptom of posting online), not something to be governed at the payment processor level.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by creatonez »

yholio wrote: post #279

I can understand the business reasons for cleaning up the OnlyFans brand. But I can't, for the life of me, understand why they are killing a cash cow instead of spining it off into a side business. Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depe…

> Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depending on interests.

This is exactly what Gfycat did. They took the same backend infrastructure, made it into a porn site (Redgifs), and moved all the porn gifs on Gfycat over to the new site.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by fennecfoxy »

bamboozled wrote: post #809
ryantgtg wrote: post #713

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a recent push toward more mainstream performers. For example, there are pro surfers who are popular youtube vloggers (e.g. Nathan Florence) who recently started onlyfans channels. Nathan’s is a fitness training channel. It threw a lot of people off guard. And I strongly suspect that onlyfans paid him to start this channel. https://onlyfans.com/nathanflorence https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/17/onlyfans-pivot-porn…

This is pretty stupid though, to throw away the business you have for the business you might have, there is heaps of porn on Twitter, looking at it is optional. Why can't it just co-exist with other "acceptable" content ? I would imagine it's very trivial to have a "Show me explicit content" setting. Edit: Side note, I don’t know why porn is so shameful, especially concerning adults posting high quality content, it’s…

As to your side note as a gay guy I notice that even though people like to think we're really progressive these days, society really, really isn't.

The norm is still heavily enforced.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by marvin »

cbdumas wrote: post #735
marvin wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't the explanation be as simple as them lacking imagination? They're not a Silicon Valley funded startup. My impression is they lucked into the golden goose, and this move makes me think they're downright clueless about their options when things get adversarial.

I guess that's possible, but it's hard for me to imagine that with billions of dollars at stake they didn't even consider it. I think they made the calculation that forcing their customers and creators to use crypto would lose them even more business than banning their core product.

I just can't fathom such a risk-averse decision. I mean, their business is dead. Even if you're not normally the type of leader to bet the farm on a wild shot, certainly it's the rational choice when the other option is a guaranteed 90% loss in expected valuation.

What are those last 10% worth to you? Unless it's still the difference between personal financial independence and wage slavery for the majority owner, I can't see how that's the rational choice. That's why I'm concluding lack of imagination and borderline incompetency.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by newswasboring »

moepstar wrote: post #911
sonicggg wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a great opportunity for another player to step in and fill the vacuum, given that OnlyFans already proved there's a market for this. Just like Vine vs TikTok. Also, weird that they would give up an entire market because of prude payment providers. Are these providers from Afghanistan? They should not have that much power over their customers. Maybe a crypto spin off could work.

That's already in the works / up and running... You're looking for cumrocket . io (no, not joking) and their own Token Cumrocket / $Cummies which is on BSC (Binance Smart Chain).

Probably showing my prudish tendencies here, but that is too disgusting to work branding wise.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by wayoutthere »

TillE wrote: post #121
wayoutthere wrote: post #103

Is there anything else on OnlyFans? Without porn, OnlyFans is just another Patreon knock-off.

It sounds like they'll basically continue to allow tasteful nudes, which is probably about half their content. So they're only killing an enormous fraction of their business, not the entire thing.

Actually yeah, from the content creators I know and have talked to, as long as you’re verified on the platform you can still post whatever. The assumption seems to be that solo stuff will still be fine, but maybe not the actual sex.

But it will still effectively be a crackdown on marginalized sexualities seen as “deviant” (aka the trans and bdsm communities). That was honestly the majority of the sexual content on Tumblr back in the day; they were on Tumblr because the mainstream porn industry doesn’t create a space that isn’t exploitative and fetishy.

The same is true on OF - trans men and women making porn are way disproportionately represented in the top creators lists. Sex work is how a lot of trans people have had to survive, and OF has made sex work much safer than it’s ever been. It would be a shame to lose an outlet like this — tempts me to go out and create one specifically for porn.

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