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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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To be fair, it's probably hard for a network like Parler to attract top talent. I mean, they explicitly advertised themselves as the "free speech social network" (i.e. "all hate speech welcome, we won't censor anyone except maybe Trump parody accounts") - would you want to work for such a company, or have it on your resume in the future?

So it’s now just a given that all of HN objects to the phrase “free speech” without limits? Seems like a pretty radical assumption and a pretty sad sign of the times if true. Note: this message has nothing to do with Parler and being right or left. Just about the phrase “free speech” and what it now connotes.

The only reason you can even post here is because HN stops spam and DDOS attacks. Your entire post is only possible because there are limits on free speech.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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I have to point out. Messages being leaked is actually in the title of the article. >70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

The article itself never defines "messages" and, from context, it seems like they referred to users' [public] posts as "users' messages" -- not DMs/PMs. EDIT: A clarification on Twitter from ~9h ago: "since a lot of people seem confused about this detail and there is a bullshit reddit post going around: only things that were available publicly via the web were archived. i don't have you e-mail address, phone or credi…

This is in the twitter post in the article

>I am now crawling URLs of all videos uploaded to Parler. Sequentially from latest to oldest. VIDXXX.txt files coming up, 50k chunks, there will be 1.1M URLs total: https://donk.sh/06d639b2-0252-4b1e-883b-f275eff7e792/

>This may include things from deleted/private posts.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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I have not seen any indication that private messages are included in this. As the person indicates, phone numbers are only included if they were posted on Parler by the users themselves, but yes from what I can tell the IDs are the most "private" part of the leak. Although one could argue that they are still "public" given that Parler publicly exposed the information.

I have to point out. Messages being leaked is actually in the title of the article. >70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

By "messages" they mean public posts directed at other people, like I'm 'messaging' you right now. It's a misleading title that was meant to sensationalize the 'hack'. It seems like all this amounted to was a simpler way to scrape public posts.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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It wasn't from private posts, it was from deleted posts. Parler left them accessible and so they happened to be caught when scraping.

The hacker specifically mentioned on Twitter both deleted and private data.

And you believed it.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #283

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Didn't WikiLeaks publish the decryption key for the Manning leaks and all the unredacted messages got into the wild?

> Didn't WikiLeaks publish the decryption key for the Manning leaks and all the unredacted messages got into the wild? No. > WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange phoned the White House to warn lives would be put at risk by the publication of cables online, a court has heard. > On 25 August, 2011, German news outlet Der Freitag revealed that it was possible to access the unredacted database of cables by using a mirror sit…

https://wikileaks.org/Guardian-journalist-negligently.html

No. Wikileaks did indeed accidentally give out the decryption key to the encrypted trove they published from the Manning leaks. There is probably still a torrent available of the full, unredacted scrape of Secret data from the SIPR network.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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> The sad fact is your comment exposes how difficult it is for anyone in the tech industry to hold a sincere conviction that free speech is a good thing Twitter occasionally labels disputed/debunked political claims as such (but still lets them be published) and, after literally years of doing little more than that, finally took actions to ban a half-dozen high-profile accounts that kept pushing such claims after the…

> Parler was literally designed with suppression of political viewpoints they disagree with in mind from the start. "We're a community town square, an open town square, with no censorship... If you can say it on the street of New York, you can say it on Parler." That's a quote from the CEO I just grabbed from CNBC[1] and there are others floating around about the lack of censorship. How does that lead to suppression…

This is just talk. You can scroll up to the head of the thread and see how the platform was designed to censor in order to maintain a certain ideology.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #884

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Well maybe in the eyes of US law, but what that's not a given for, well, me or perhaps others on HN. Take "the US highway network" for example. It can just as easily be used to transport black-market items, child porn, weapons, drugs, etc as it can transport ice cream bars. I support it. Tor just as easily supports drug sales as it does star-trek reviews. I support it. Can't say for sure, but I think it's hazardous t…

Oh, it's not just the US. Other countries have restrictions as well. Societal norms impose restrictions too. Unless you're an anarchist, there have always been (and probably always will) be restrictions on speech and free speech is typically meant in the domain of political speech.

Even anarchists believe there should be restrictions on speech. Just not that the power to restrict speech should be concentrated.

The way humans socially operate inherently restricts speech.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #516

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It's also likely doing this as screwed up active investigations. Someone might have felt safe "deleting" messages on Parlor. Now that this is public, they're going to burn everything connected to it and it may ruin ongoing investigations. There's a reason Twitter keeps a lot of accounts active, they act as honey pots for law enforcement who can watch them. These hackers aren't the heroes they pretend to be.

Apparently Parler collects phone numbers and scans of government-issued ID. I suspect most people in a Western country would find it difficult to "burn" their legal name and birthdate.

Really? Parler requires an image of an ID? I've heard this claim elsewhere but I just assumed it was misinformation. I can't imagine so many people sending in photos of their ID to have access to Parler. Even the ones who didn't know that openly planning murders is wrong there are many users who would know to hide their identity, right?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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No. The constitution does not allow them to throw out votes. A republic is a form of democracy. Arguing semantics has no place in HN. And "vote their conscience" is a weasel phrase. They had a duty to tally the votes, a procedure to follow. Some of them didn't want to follow the procedure. Changing the procedure requires a constitutional amendment, agreement from a supermajority of states. Regardless of their individ…

>>And "vote their conscience" is a weasel phrase. They had a duty to tally the votes, a procedure to follow. Some of them didn't want to follow the procedure. So are you neglecting the Electoral Count Act of 1887? If the law and procedure requires they must vote when a proper objection is raised, it is not against the law to vote as they see fit, aka vote freely. This is the generally accepted meaning of "voting thei…

You imply that I am ignoring some important point of the Electoral Count Act of 1887 [0], but you do not state the point or how it makes the behavior of the Republican voters OK and not an attack on democracy. Please behave in a more respectful way.

I reviewed the act. It contains rules for handling the situation when a state has not properly selected its electors or certified its votes. Pennsylvania did properly select its electors and did certify its results before the deadline.

The act allows congresspeople to submit written objections, with grounds. The objections submitted on 02021-01-06 were the same lies that were rejected by Republican judges in Pennsylvania and the US Supreme Court. You can read them in [1]. Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey eloquently explained the situation to the Senate [2].

I see nothing in the Electoral Count Act of 1887 that would allow Congress to throw out a state's votes. If you can find it, please reply.

Throwing out a state's votes is unacceptable. And it is unconstitutional, regardless of any acts passed by Congress short of constitutional amendments. Our nation has democracy written into its core. No party can throw it away with a vote.

[0] https://govtrackus.s3.amazonaws.com/legislink/pdf/stat/24/ST...

[1] https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2021/01/06/hou...

[2] https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2021/01/06/sen...

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