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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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How do you know that? I am going to go out on a limb here and say you have not done background research on TV manufacturers who focus exclusively on inexpensive dumb TVs, so how can you know it's not worth it to them? It is entirely possible there are other factors as to why we are not buying from them right now, such as supplier-related issues unbeknownst to us. In short, the economy is more complex than claiming "d…

I have almost never heard anybody outside of the tech world express concern about this sort of data collection, and even most tech-savvy people I know explicitly reject the idea of caring about it. Yes, admittedly this is anecdotal, but I am talking about an extended family/social circle of hundreds of people over the course of quite a few years. The odds of it being a massively unrepresentative sample are rather low…

I am not talking about the demand for privacy, I am talking about the demand for dumb, inexpensive TVs. You are saying it is impossible to find a market that needs dumb, inexpensive TVs. But suppose all of those people saw an option for a cheaper TV that happened to be dumb. This line could even be sold by a major brand. Call it something like a "SimplySmart" line.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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I have almost never heard anybody outside of the tech world express concern about this sort of data collection, and even most tech-savvy people I know explicitly reject the idea of caring about it. Yes, admittedly this is anecdotal, but I am talking about an extended family/social circle of hundreds of people over the course of quite a few years. The odds of it being a massively unrepresentative sample are rather low…

I am not talking about the demand for privacy, I am talking about the demand for dumb, inexpensive TVs. You are saying it is impossible to find a market that needs dumb, inexpensive TVs. But suppose all of those people saw an option for a cheaper TV that happened to be dumb. This line could even be sold by a major brand. Call it something like a "SimplySmart" line.

Ah, I see the misunderstanding.

The "smart" functionality is how they achieve low prices. They subsidize the cost of the TV by selling your usage data. They may have deals with app providers as well - similar to how the price of a consumer laptop is subsidized by preloaded crapware.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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So how do you do this again? My remote: https://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/is/images/direct/b5d...

Well, Google it, it's not like we know which model TV with which software you have.

I was trying to be smart-alecky

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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I started the phone, put the pin in and triggered the upgrade. After the upgrade completed there is an only an option to put in a email/password for icloud and there is no "skip" or "do later" button I could find. I'm pretty derpy but I can tell you it is true.

Sounds like you picked up the SE used and it had an activation lock. One of the more annoying things Apple has done was to take down the page for checking that before purchase. That or you put in an iCloud account at some point but it did not get removed successfully.

Nope, found it eventually.

iOS 14 merges the 'not now' from iOS 13 into a 'forgot my account or don't set up now'.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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I am not talking about the demand for privacy, I am talking about the demand for dumb, inexpensive TVs. You are saying it is impossible to find a market that needs dumb, inexpensive TVs. But suppose all of those people saw an option for a cheaper TV that happened to be dumb. This line could even be sold by a major brand. Call it something like a "SimplySmart" line.

Ah, I see the misunderstanding. The "smart" functionality is how they achieve low prices. They subsidize the cost of the TV by selling your usage data. They may have deals with app providers as well - similar to how the price of a consumer laptop is subsidized by preloaded crapware.

Come to think of it, I believe those brands for dumb, cheaper TVs exist. Check out Sceptre TVs. I will make sure I grab one for my next replacement.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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> Just don't connect it to the internet. Smart TV manufacturers are relying on the ongoing revenue from their software side nowadays, so they’ll usually mandate setting up an internet connection as part of the device setup process, and then only give you the option to change networks instead of disabling it outright. If you’re tech savvy, you can take measures against this, but it’s not going to be simple for most fo…

How "usually" is this, actually? I bought an LG TV about a year ago, and it did not force me to connect to the Internet. I just turned it on, skipped the crap, and it works fine over HDMI.

I set up a TCL Roku TV in 2019 for my parents; it presented no option to skip connecting to WiFi.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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How "usually" is this, actually? I bought an LG TV about a year ago, and it did not force me to connect to the Internet. I just turned it on, skipped the crap, and it works fine over HDMI.

I set up a TCL Roku TV in 2019 for my parents; it presented no option to skip connecting to WiFi.

During guided setup, it will scan for wireless networks, but one option is always "I do not want to connect" where the TV continues in unconnected mode.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Roku and Chromecast do the same BS as smart TVs

...do they? I have a Chromecast and have never seen an ad.

They don't display ads on chromecast, they collect info for future ads there.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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I've bought multiple products from mobile ads just this year. Heck the yoga app I use I saw through a mobile ad. Same deal for the fitness app I use (BodBot, awesome app, check it out!) I've gotten onboard Kickstarters from ads, and I've bought keto cereal from an ad I saw. 99.999% of most ads I ignore, but sometimes ads are really well targeted and actually show me something I want. (None of these ads were on a tv i…

OT question, but what the heck is a keto cereal? i tought keto means no/low carb. and I mean everything in cereals has carbs. I mean classic cereals use tons of oatmeal, fruits, differnt types of wheat, joghurt, etc.. like everything with carbs?! so basically the bread and butter ingrident of cereals is oatmeal which has like >60% carbs with other types of carbs?!

Base on the ingredients, lots of whey protein.
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