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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by eitland »

latexr wrote: post #719
dror wrote: post #636

It is so clear to me that we need to support and promote mozilla and Firefox. They're not perfect, but they, wikipedia, eff, archive.org (who else?) are such an important part of the Internet guardianship in the face of the monopolies, that it's our duty to support them. Doesn't hurt that Firefox is actually a great product.

> Doesn't hurt that Firefox is actually a great product. Arguably. On these threads there is always a handful of complaints about the state of Firefox, mostly on macOS. On my machine, I can’t even launch Firefox in headless mode without the fans turning on, which never happened on Chrome. While I haven’t benchmarked it, for normal browsing it does feel slower than Crome. But what kills it for me is their crippled App…

Anything Google related running in that Firefox? (Seems like a stupid question since it also happens in headless.)

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by lol768 »

mrb wrote: post #632
ummonk wrote: post #576

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And no pirate has been able to extract the key yet?

It was broken: https://twitter.com/David3141593/status/1080606827384131590 But now we are getting kinda off topic which is that Widevine DRM does work with Chromium.

Interesting, it's a shame we never saw more (a PoC or write-up) following that though.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by gosseyn »

aquova wrote: post #542
wishinghand wrote: post #474

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I looked up Vivaldi Speed Dial. It looks like the same sort of thing Firefox, Chrome, and Safari have where a new tab has a pinned list of favorite or most visited sites. What does Vivaldi do that I'm not seeing?

Having switched from Vivaldi back to Firefox about a year ago, the Vivaldi speed dial is similar to the pinned lists of favorites, but it's much more user friendly. You can customize how many sites you see, how many are in each column, number of columns, etc. You can also change the icon to be anything you like. It certainly wasn't a dealbreaker for me personally, and as you said, pinned favorites serve the same purp…

It's way more than just pinning ! I organize my YouTube subscription in folders with themes like tutorials recipes and subfolders...you can do that on Firefox with the bookmark toolbar but in a less user friendly way and less visually pleasing way toi. what makes it worse is that it used to be possible on Firefox! It's not a deal breaker or anything ! But I miss that XD ! I had a hundreds of bookmarks organized on Vivaldi ! I still don't know how to "transition" that to firefox :/

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by gosseyn »

keroton wrote: post #558
aquova wrote: post #542

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Having switched from Vivaldi back to Firefox about a year ago, the Vivaldi speed dial is similar to the pinned lists of favorites, but it's much more user friendly. You can customize how many sites you see, how many are in each column, number of columns, etc. You can also change the icon to be anything you like. It certainly wasn't a dealbreaker for me personally, and as you said, pinned favorites serve the same purp…

Did you try Infinity Tab Pro (which is free)? Sounds kinda similar to what you are looking. It does No. of sites, custom columns, custom pictures, and custom backgrounds. It really gives you a lot of control compared to all the other extensions I tried.

I'm going to check this out ! Thank you :D

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by drevil-v2 »

latexr wrote: post #740
cmplxconjugate wrote: post #521

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Actually you can get uBO for Safari: https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/blob/safari/README.md

That extension has been dead for over a year. For it to work on future macOS versions, the developers would need to convert it to a Safari App Extension and cough up $99/year. They’re not interested.

It's not the money. The extensions would have to be ported over to Swift or Objective-C. Complete rewrite of what was JS code previously

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by midnitewarrior »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #741
hodder wrote: post #646

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I agree. It is truly unbelievable. Same with user goodwill. Microsoft is vaccuuming it all up. Meanwhile Microsoft is making tons of great moves to get devs and users back on their side.

You have to read that comment from a long-time Microsoft developer : https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/all/2019/05/24/github...

The referenced comment rehashes the evils of Ballmer's Microsoft which Nadella has mostly corrected. Satya Nadella has embraced (but not extended!) Open Source. Their Azure strategy puts all platforms on a level playing field - yet has also made Azure an incredible place to make Windows/Microsoft technologies shine. It's a great place for all apps.

Yes, they control Office and are the defacto office document standard. What they do with Office now is affordable and ubiquitous. No other office document suite can do this. They are a for-profit company, and Office serves their customers very well. Yes, in Ballmer's days this wan't the case, but today you can run Office (365/Cloud) on a Chromebook and on Android and iPhone as supported apps.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by alpaca128 »

The-Compiler wrote: post #931
alpaca128 wrote: post #929

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I do already block ads via the /etc/hosts file and it largely works pretty well but it completely fails on YouTube and Reddit. I've read that YT is at best tricky with pihole as well, so for now I just use Firefox for these sites and qutebrowser for most other purposes. But great to know there's some progress.

FWIW I just use a keybinding to open mpv for Youtube. There's also https://github.com/ParticleCore/Iridium which can prevent ads (though I'm not sure if it still works, it was broken at some point).

Thanks for the suggestion, the keybinding for mpv works really well. Definitely better than getting these horrible popups in the middle of the videos.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by midnitewarrior »

msiyer wrote: post #920
hodder wrote: post #646

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I agree. It is truly unbelievable. Same with user goodwill. Microsoft is vaccuuming it all up. Meanwhile Microsoft is making tons of great moves to get devs and users back on their side.

And what do you think will happen when all devs and users join Microsoft? The same cycle will repeat.

Linux and Open Source tech is a huge part of Azure now. They profit from people using Linux on Azure. They don't have a reason to chase customers away when they are making money from them.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by iruoy »

bscphil wrote: post #825
RussianCow wrote: post #478

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> The only service with DRM I'm aware of is Netflix and it's terrible anyway. Ha! Tell that to their 150 million subscribers. :) More seriously, using a browser without DRM would be a deal-breaker to many users like myself solely because of Netflix, unfortunately. That said, if you're serious about using a DRM-free browser, there are other ways to watch Netflix (iOS/Android, smart TVs, etc).

Don't they have a desktop client that works just fine? Also, Chrome's "advantage" may be having built-in DRM, but it's not much of one: Netflix limits Chrome users to 720p video. So for all practical purposes you need a different browser or client for Netflix anyway if your main browser is Chromium based.

Netflix limits all non OS bundled browsers to 720p. Safari, Internet Explorer and Chrome OS go to 1080p and Edge to 4K.
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