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Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by hinkley »

majani wrote: post #894
trimbo wrote: post #689

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In 2008, the app store was launching, and physical software was still sold at Targets, Walmarts and other large retailers. A 30% margin was roughly what retailers would make off of physical software sales. By setting the App Store to be the same, Apple was signaling to retailers that they were not trying to undercut their margin, and keep a healthy relationship with them.

And it was a great deal compared to the 90% cut you had to give phone carriers to highlight your java apps

The carriers were taking about 70% in tariffs and fees even without you bribing them to get better positioning. That’s why all the mobile app people rushed to Apple in the early days. They could actually turn a profit on the App Store.

If probably be retired now if I wasn’t already so burnt out on how SMS tariffs worked at the time. Utterly opaque and on a delay. They basically wrote you a check for however much they felt like each month.

Essentially the reseller arm of carriers at that time was just a money funnel from VCs to the telcos. They were eating their own young and I was full up on the bullshit.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by handedness »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #170
handedness wrote: post #164

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GrapheneOS is already a viable de-Googled and significantly hardened and improved fork of AOSP. It runs on Google Pixels at present, with an OEM device planned for release in 2027.

I guess yeah, Most of my concerns were with Privacy but yea looks like grapheneos is a tradeoff I might have to make some day but honestly its also the fact that I love cli tools and yea I can and I have used termux in the past but I really wish for a more first class for cli tools as well and I don't know but I just really wish to support linux tools. Like I am just not satisfied with the current options we have rig…

As one who previously had a PinePhone and really tried to make it work, I share the sentiment.

One problem is by the time you've modified the Linux kernel enough to suit it, and built the phone UI and broader software ecosystem around it, at some point you're just reinventing AOSP.

I'm hoping Debian on Android gets more mature, and works better on GrapheneOS.

Your best bet in the near term may be a used a-series Pixel with GOS on it. An old under-spec'd Pixel on sale was my entry point to GOS and contrary to my PinePhone experience, I knew instantly that was going to be the device for me for the coming years, and ended up upgrading a year later to a newer device.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by leoh »

Gualdrapo wrote: post #20
advisedwang wrote: post #10

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Apple needs this to stay afloat, you know

Knowing there are Apple fanboys around HN (I got downvoted for saying the liquid glass thing and the iphone air were pointless) I fear they will take your comment seriously

I am serious though

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by jojobas »

advisedwang wrote: post #912
jojobas wrote: post #37

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Poe's law hit me hard.

Some people say that Apple is wildly profitable and has more money than it can spend. But if profit goes down, even if it remains huge, then Apple stock takes a blow. And stockholders are who really this is all about. So really increasing profit a few percent a year is truly just barely keeping the head above the water.

Wait, you were serious?

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by legacynl »

siavosh wrote: post #771
jacquesm wrote: post #423

The wealthiest company in the world really needs that last little bit from those Patreon creators who have it way too easy in their lives. It's not as if the people that take that meager bit of cash are going to invest it in Apple stock so they're going to have to pay up. The Mafia can learn a thing or two from Cook.

This is the machine. The behavior is much larger than any CEO or even trillion dollar company.

What are you trying to say actually? That we can't fault apple for a decision they're making?

When they do something marginally nice: "omg apple is so great :D" when they do something stupid: "poor apple is being forced by the market :'("

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by legacynl »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #544

Sometimes I think the 30% was supposed to be 3% originally, and no one noticed the decimal was in the wrong place when they shipped it, and then people paid it anyway, so they kept it. 30% is just so unreasonable that it would be totally understandable if someone would believe this.

"sometimes I make up false stories to make me feel better about my favorite company :D"

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by davidmurdoch »

legacynl wrote: post #937
davidmurdoch wrote: post #544

Sometimes I think the 30% was supposed to be 3% originally, and no one noticed the decimal was in the wrong place when they shipped it, and then people paid it anyway, so they kept it. 30% is just so unreasonable that it would be totally understandable if someone would believe this.

"sometimes I make up false stories to make me feel better about my favorite company :D"

I don't even own any apple products.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by thejazzman »

jama211 wrote: post #918
direwolf20 wrote: post #761

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Google allows out–of–store installation (for now...) so it's much easier to argue there's competition. Apps installed through F–Droid don't have this tax.

And in the EU alternative app stores are allowed on iphone as well. In both cases, it’s a near negligible amount of people that use them. Your exceptions prove the rule, if anything.

This would not be true if all markets rose simultaneously. It’s why they all fight so hard to delay the inevitable. You don’t have to win, you just have to win for long enough to be established
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