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Post by 9dev »

direwolf20 wrote: post #922
9dev wrote: post #802

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Before Trump, at least we had the hypocrisy —like, at least people would pretend to have a moral higher ground. Now there are just completely shameless thugs in charge. They don’t even bother to lie convincingly anymore; just listen to Kristi Noem in interviews, contradicting herself from sentence to sentence without a care in the world. They won’t be held accountable for anything, and they know it.

Have you listened to the Canadian PM's speech at Davos? He called out all of this.

not yet, but got multiple recommendations on it already. Might be time to give it a listen

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Post by Bombthecat »

IIAOPSW wrote: post #439
js8 wrote: post #133

When I was 11, on 17th Nov 1989, in Czechoslovakia, my father was watching the evening news on our (black and white) TV, as usual. There was a protest and the state media was reporting on it. When the reporter said, "our camera broke down and we can only show black and white pictures", my father IMMEDIATELY jumped up and angrily said, "that's bs, you don't want to show how they [the protesting students] got beaten up…

Dare I say, the Revolution will not be Televised.

Dare I say, there won't be a revolution.

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

hearsathought wrote: post #672
jmyeet wrote: post #475

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What you're describing here (ironically) is unironically the basis for Western political thought. What I'm referring to here is idealism [1]. Whether it's European colonial powers or the US, the basis for foreign intervention is, quite simply, that we are the Good Guys. Why? Because we're the Good Guys. Even slavery was justified in Christianity by converting the heathen and saving their immortal souls, a fundamental…

> What you're describing here (ironically) is unironically the basis for Western political thought. It's not just "western" political thought if such a thing even exists. It's political thought. For example, Japan's stated goal in ww2 was to liberate asia from european invaders. They portrayed themselves as the good guys. The liberators. That's true for every empire and war in history, "western" or "eastern" or "nort…

Whilst either side can claim to be "good guys", it's important to look at the behaviours exhibited. Obviously, Germany had the concentration camps and Japan brutally tortured prisoners of war, so it does seem quite clear that one side had more respect for human dignity than the other. However, the U.S. did round up Japanese people, but it hardly compares to the atrocities of the Nazis.

Nowadays however, we have the USA rounding up non-white people and putting them in brutal concentration camps (it's not a prison if there's no due process) whilst openly murdering opposition in the streets whilst Germany is acting as a trusted and stable partner. It's not the country, but the monsters that may be put in charge by a misled population.

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Post by infecto »

lyu07282 wrote: post #930
infecto wrote: post #125

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What argument are we having? I see someone struggling to hold their own words steady, and you claiming that I am proclaiming something when I only mentioned it because of this exact problem. I do not really think of myself as left or right within the current American political system. I do not follow either political party, and my opinions often zig zag across existing party lines. If anything, maybe “centrist” is th…

> The point still stands brigading is a massive problem in America. So why is it that self proclaimed centrists consistently talk in right-wing talking points? That's my entire point, you talk in cancel culture/culture war talking points as if those are real issues and even the single most pertinent issues in America. Even though in reality they are purely artificial constructions of right-wing propaganda, spread by…

I was going to write out more but realized it’s probably not productive. Just remember you are part of the problem. I have outlined no political affiliation other than stating that America is extremely polarized these days and sadly polarized people see you as either with them or against. You are proving that point pretty well. I genuinely feel sorry for you and I hope sometime you can self reflect and realize that you are part of the problem. You are rude and come across educated but not well spoken. I am not your enemy.

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Post by rifty »

TheAlchemist wrote: post #803
jjice wrote: post #792

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Comments like this appear on every single post like this. Hacker New's algorithm lowers posts that have too much engagement too fast as a way to prevent flame wars. Is it perfect? No. But I highly doubt this is HN demoting this on purpose. From the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html > The basic algorithm divides points by a power of the time since a story was submitted. Comments in threads are ranked the…

I believe the reasons for this system where initially good - don't want too many political discussions, keep it on tech only. The issue is, that the tech is not a niche thing anymore - the biggest companies on earth are all tech now, and they played a very major role in installing the current US government. This topic is a great example too. Any current or future authoritarian state will be a very heavy user of techn…

I think there's value in the homepage placing these things less prominently, while making more prominent the other things we want the culture here to be about - despite those things being less generally engaging and obviously popular.

For when someone is a new person here, they'll then first get mildly introduced and familiar with the expectations and aspirations of space through more neutral discussions. After their initial impression they're always free to seek out these hotter discussions on /active once they realize they happen here.

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Post by infecto »

watwut wrote: post #907
infecto wrote: post #35

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I am not sure why this was flagged but I don’t think it’s wrong. I am not sure if it’s a uniquely American thing but the internet has caused an unfortunate case of brigading for almost anything. I like to think I sit fairly middle in a lot of American topics I lean left on some items, taxes, healthcare, free school lunches and right on others but I remember how easy it was a number of years ago to be labeled a racist…

> You really cannot have an opinion about much these days without someone labeling you something unfavorably. It’s unfortunate. That is free speech. And the violence you see is direct consequence of a culture that tuts tuts "this is rude" when someone says "these right wing people are fascists" rather then look at what those right wing people openly talk about.

It is but you’re missing the point. Just because something is free speech does not make it any less unfortunate. It’s pretty clear in some of the threads here how polarizing things have become.

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Post by gcanyon »

deaux wrote: post #911
gcanyon wrote: post #584

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I think this take is on the cynical side. A more charitable interpretation would be what they say (but maybe I'm being naive): that they don't want to break the rules to fix what someone else broke by breaking the rules. I'm not sure what you mean by "they consistently come up with the exact small number of Democrats needed to push legislation and bills that the party proposes to be against" -- if you mean the Republ…

You're not just being naive, you're ignoring the blatant reality. 2016 DNC is enough evidence that yes, the core of the party is very much in on it.

Can you expand on this, because I'm not understanding what your grief with the 2016 DNC is. I'll help speed the process saying: 1. I voted for Bernie in the primary 2. I fully recognize -- and we all should -- that the DNC is not beholden to us to run the primary in a particular way. Until some point in the 20th century nominees were literally decided in backroom deals without primaries influencing anything. So the idea that they "robbed" us of the Bernie candidacy doesn't hold sway with me (if that's what you're arguing) even though I supported him myself.

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #810
iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #780

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Honestly, and I say it without a shade of irony, it might be for the best, if the collective 'we' stop attempting re-enact fictional events and lives in alternate worlds. It would do everyone, and I do mean everyone, a good solid needful, should they just stopped and thought about what they are doing and the likely course of the events given their actions. It would be orders of magnitude more productive if we did tha…

I’m saying people should watch a powerful series about state violence and masking with real world lessons that can be taken away. I’m unsure what you mean by how we shouldn’t re-enact fictional events. Are you talking about my suggestion? Or are you saying we should end acting? Or is it something g else?

Apologies. I may have come too strong possibly, because I do it myself sometimes by referencing shows as a means to convey relatable message to the audience. Lately, however, I started to think that the shorthand those references introduce may be more of a problem than not. I am not even familiar with the particular show you are referencing.

I think my concern was that we think too much in terms popular culture. That itself is a problem. Still, as problems go, it is not urgent. Hence my apology.

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Post by I-M-S »

honzabe wrote: post #913
I-M-S wrote: post #796

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> The story of the United States is one of genocide, racism, imperialism, and oppression of the working class. I do not think it is. The story of the US contains all those things. And just as the story of the US contains Abu Ghraib, it also contains functioning courts sending Abu Ghraib perpetrators to jail. You can call it the permanent struggle between good and evil. There is no country in the world without evil. B…

Only two Abu Ghraib perpetrators were ever sent to jail. One served 6.5 years, the other 1.5 years. I invite everyone to scroll this Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisone... from top to bottom and decide for themself if that should be considered a commensurate punishment.
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