Reminds me of all the dark fiber laid in the 1990s before DWDM made much of the laid fiber redundant. If there is an AI bust, we will have a glut of surplus hardware.
Google bought up all that dark fiber cheap a decade later and used it as the backbone of their network.
IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data centers will pay off
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#932Reminds me of all the dark fiber laid in the 1990s before DWDM made much of the laid fiber redundant. If there is an AI bust, we will have a glut of surplus hardware.
For the analogy to fiber & DWDM to hold, we'd need some algorithmic breakthrough that makes current GPUs much faster / more efficient at running AI models. Something that makes the existing investment in hardware unneeded, even though the projected demand is real and continues to grow. IMNSHO that's not going to happen here. The foreseeable efficiency innovations are generally around reduced precision, which almost a…
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Would you mind sharing some of these projects? I've found Claude's usefulness is highly variable, though somewhat predictable. It can write `jq` filters flawlessly every time, whereas I would normally spend 30 minutes scanning docs because nobody memorizes `jq` syntax. And it can comb through server logs in every pod of my k8s clusters extremely fast. But it often struggles making quality code changes in a large code…
https://github.com/lawless-m You can see by Contributors which ones Claude has done. I have no idea if the code is any good, I’ve never looked at it and I have no idea how to code in Rust or Racket or Erlang anyway.
In that case, are you really producing multiple projects per week? If you've never looked at the code, have you verified that they work?
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I don't think it is a coincidence that the areas with the wealhiest people/corporations are the same areas with the most extreme poverty. The details are, of course, complicated, but zooming way way out, the rich literally drain wealth from those around them.
Thanks for pointing this out. Sorry you're getting downvoted. I visited San Francisco about ten years ago, and seeing a homeless person sheltering themselves under a flag or some sort of merch from a tech company really drove home just how bereft of humanity corporate power centers really are.
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#935I find it disturbing how long people wait to accept basic truths, as if they need permission to think or believe a particular outcome will occur. It was quite obvious that AI was hype from the get-go. An expensive solution looking for a problem. The cost of hardware. The impact on hardware and supply chains. The impact to electricity prices and the need to scale up grid and generation capacity. The overall cost to so…
Just like .com bust from companies going online, there is hype, but there is also real value. Even slow non-tech legacy industry companies are deploying chatbots across every department - HR, operations, IT, customer support. All leadership are already planning to cut 50 - 90% of staff from most departments over next decade. It matters, because these initiatives are receiving internal funding which will precipitate o…
Yes, and customers fucking hate it. They want to talk to a person on the damn phone.
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I'm a younger millennial. I'm always seeing homeless people in my city and it's an issue that I think about on a daily basis. Couldn't we have spent the money on homeless shelters and food and other things? So many people are in poverty, they can't afford basic necessities. The world is shitty. Yes, I know it's all capital from VC firms and investment firms and other private sources , but it's still capital . It shou…
The older I get, the more I realize that our choices in life come down to two options: benefit me or benefit others. The first one leads to nearly every trouble we have in the world. The second nearly always leads to happiness, whether directly or indirectly. Our bias as humans has always been toward the first, but our evolution is and will continue to slowly bring us toward the second option. Beyond simple reproduct…
https://youtu.be/nWWRFA8v6aE?t=2629
https://youtu.be/nWWRFA8v6aE?t=3000
He was a physics grad, did some experiments with out of body experiences, decided the Universe is a simulation for immortal consciousness to experience making choices and dealing with their consequences, and reasoned from there that the purpose of life is to get rid of ego and fear and learn to benefit others instead of ourselves.
Quite how he got from one to the other isn't clear to me, or why it's physics related; the message seems to be a familiar religious one, deal with whatever struggles happen to you and try to be egoless and kind.
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A lot of this stuff is in the realm of "lol" or even "lmao". There's a consistent failure to consider human nature and economic incentives woven through this essay. Probably the most objectionable stuff is in section 2 "Neuroscience and Mind" because the definition of "mental illness" itself is prone to all kind of historical and societal biases. Who gets to decide what a "normal" brain is? Is it the AI? Does the own…
Just remember you "lol" at Nobel laureates and Turing award winners that all agree unanimously that we are going there. You just lol. Not much to say to convince you.
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Maybe the most depressing part of all this is if people start thinking they would not have been able to do things without the LLM. Of course they would have, it's not like LLMs can do anything that you cannot. Maybe it would have taken more time at least the first time and you would have learned a few things in the process.
Sure, I can write all of it. But I simply won’t. I have Claude generated Avalonia C# applications and there is no way I would have written the thousands of lines of xaml they needed for the layouts. I would just have done it as a console app with flags.
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#940Despite the flashy title that's the first "sober" analysis from a CEO I read about the technology. While not even really news, it's also worth mentioning that the energy requirements are impossible to fulfill Also now using ChatGPT intensely since months for all kinds of tasks and having tried Claude etc. None of this is on par with a human. The code snippets are straight out of Stackoverflow...
Didn't IBM just sign quite a big deal with Groq?