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Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by singularfutur »

pantalaimon wrote: post #56
mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

Won't that make Linux support even harder :/

I tried many times to install linux on my m4 and it's very limited (only Asahi) and not with a great support of features like sleep. It's painful so at the end of the day, I restart with osx

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by imcritic »

tempoponet wrote: post #211
imcritic wrote: post #55

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They support their phones for years longer than any vendor. This has been widely understood for probably 10+ years at this point. There's plenty of room for criticism without a blanket conspiracy that doesn't match what most can observe.

Support means that the manufacturer just still releases OS updates. But it says absolutely nothing about the quality of those updates: what if those updates simply degrade the situation? Every iPhone user I know says the same without conspiring with each other: it's better to stop updating to newer major OS releases for older iPhones.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by cpuguy83 »

bmdhacks wrote: post #551
fph wrote: post #541

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What is the Linux experience on new Mac hardware? I'd be interested also in running a Macbuntu.

Asahi linux is essentially in a holding pattern with only support up to M2. Likely linux will never be supported above M2 and even M2 has a lot of rough edges. When my monitor sleeps on M2 linux it can never reawaken without a reboot.

So the normal Linux desktop experience then!

I kid, I kid.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by mkirsten »

exabrial wrote: post #188

> A nearly 30 percent increase in unified memory bandwidth to 153GB/s I'll believe the benchmarks, not marketing claims, but an observation and a question. 1. AMD EPYC 4585PX has ~89GB/s, with pretty good latency, as long you use 2xdimm 2. How does this compare to the memory bandwidth and latency of M1,M2,M3,M4 in reality with all of the caveats? It seems like M1 was a monumental leap forward, then everything else wa…

Why retraction?

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by tpmoney »

jtbayly wrote: post #307
lelandfe wrote: post #138

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As a UI/UX nerd, it’s a coin flip on intentionality. I’ve been noticing so many rough edges to Apple’s software when it used to astound. iOS Settings search will flash “No Results” as you begin to type which is comically amateurish. The macOS menu bar control panels can’t be keyboard navigated... It’s just silly. I’ve been debating making a Tumblr-style blog, something like “dumbapple.com,” to catalogue all the dumb…

Please do this. Here are some examples to add to your list, leaving out the 26.0 bugs that I've come to expect running a .0 release. 1. I won't focus on a bunch of Siri items, but one example that always bugs me: I cannot ask Siri to give me directions to my next meeting. The latest OS introduces an answer for the first time, though. It tells me to open the calendar app on my Apple watch, and tap on the meeting, and…

> Mail.app on iOS does not have a "share sheet." This makes it impossible to "do" anything with an email message, like send it to a todo app.

You can’t directly share the mail message, but you can “share” selected text or you can use the “print” option to generate a PDF of the message and “share” that instead. Not very discoverable but might cover at least some of what you want to do.

Also not sure if it’s new with iOS 26 but for the contacts thing you can at least skip the “leave messages and search for the contact in the contacts app” part. There’s button in the contact info that will take you directly to the contact in the contacts app. It does feel silly that you can’t share direct from the card in messages though.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by dcchambers »

mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

I really want to know why Apple refuses to put a cellular chip in the macbooks.

They are so scared about cannibalizing mac/ipad sales - they really really want people to own both.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by [deleted] »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #687
jay_kyburz wrote: post #644

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nevermind. Found this. Still a ways to go. https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/feature-support/m4/#tab...

Yeah, given all the people with passion/ability for low-level reverse engineering have left the project, I don’t think we should ever expect to get greater than M2 support from Asahi. Maybe one day another project will pick up the ideas, but for anyone not wanting to use years old hardware, the dream of Linux almost natively existing on modern Apple silicon remains just that: a dream.

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Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by misiek08 »

thewebguyd wrote: post #303
kobalsky wrote: post #269

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my tinfoil-hat theory is that on each OS iteration Apple adds a new feature that leverages the latest chips hardware acceleration features and for older chips they do software-only implementations. they ship-of-thesseus the crap out of their OS but replacing with parts that need these new hardware features that run slow on older chips due to software-only implementations. I got the first generation iPad Pro, which is…

I have the 4th gen (2020) iPad Pro with the A12X Bionic, the same chip they put in the Apple Silicon transition dev kits. With iPadOS 26 it's become barely usable, despite still being performant as ever on iPadOS 18. I'm talking huge drop in performance, stutters and slow downs everywhere. I was considering just replacing the battery and keeping it for several more years but now I feel forced to upgrade which has me…

I have perfectly fine Mini 2 Retina, but because they blocked Safari updates and faked AppStore connectivity issues - I have just perfect display with still good battery than can be used as bread cutting board :(

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by Aperocky »

XelNika wrote: post #819
Aperocky wrote: post #817

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What does AI performance even mean for intel based mac systems.. The last one was like 5 years ago?

> production 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645, 16GB of RAM, and 2TB SSD https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/#footnote-4 So yes, that is compared to a very old 14 nm design, presumably the i7-8557U per Wikipedia.

They'll be the only people running this thing in 2030 so they can produce 286x and 386x and maybe 80286x performance gains by then.
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