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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mlrtime »

DengistKhan wrote: post #791
fennecfoxy wrote: post #600

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>They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform Funny how for the last 30 years of right wing violence/extremists far exceeding left wing nothing was done at all about it, no questions asked. Hush hush, don't talk about gun control or the real causes of these peoples' actions. But then the year that left wing violence…

> But then the year that left wing violence finally exceeds right wing this framing will most likely confuse most people because it's essentially a 100s of murders/mass shootings (by the right) vs 2 murders (by the left, the rest is probably property damage or whatever). It's also going to be confusing because Luigi is not a confirmed leftist, the Kirk shooter is not a confirmed leftist, and putting aside the problem…

When you make up a game in your head, it's easy to keep score so your "team" always wins.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mlrtime »

SilverElfin wrote: post #323
fancyswimtime wrote: post #275

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this seems to be happening on city based subs as well where the split is political; creating echo chambers for each side. This feels dangerous as any potential middle ground gets eroded away.

Example?

/r/Texas allows conservative discussion (it doesn't get banned) but nothing gets posted or voted on, effectively making it a sub of people who hate Texas.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mlrtime »

SilverElfin wrote: post #323
fancyswimtime wrote: post #275

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this seems to be happening on city based subs as well where the split is political; creating echo chambers for each side. This feels dangerous as any potential middle ground gets eroded away.

Example?

/r/nyc had a homeless mod for awhile that was on a power trip for awhile. They would ban anyone who used the word "homeless". Not in a derogatory way, just type the word out. It took years to get rid of that person.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mlrtime »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #915
piltdownman wrote: post #713

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Reddit being Reddit wasn't a problem until it became a source of truth and subsequently afforded consensus and an unwarranted sheen of credence by Agentic AI. As the author beautifully (albeit somewhat nihilistically) summarises: "We have to remember that Reddit isn’t just Reddit anymore. The powers that be have decided that Reddit is infallible, a reliable set of training data for LLMs, and should be featured fuckin…

That's really stupid. Anyone spending more than an hour reading reddit comments knows that reddit comments are not some bastion of truth.

It is true ... in a way that the truth is a needle in a haystack. And that haystack is filled with knives , needles and other garbage you have to swift through.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mlrtime »

eric_cc wrote: post #798
bryceneal wrote: post #783

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I'm equally confused at just how bad Reddit is at identifying and removing bad actors to the point that I'm convinced it must be an intentional. I'm not sure if the reason may be as simple as the desire to pump their user numbers for earnings, or if it's something more egregious than that. It's not clear to me how a company owned by the public which relies on advertisers for revenue has been able to carry on for so l…

Oh it’s deliberate. It’s been THE online platform for far left radicalization and extremist views for at least a decade now. It’s by far the most intolerant social media platform relative to the mainstream platforms.

It was better before they all left twitter.... twitter was far left radicalization , and reddit was mostly on-topic except /r/politics.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mlrtime »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #891
mlrtime wrote: post #888

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To the average reddit, simply being conservative or voting for trump is promoting hate. I guarantee you 100% they think this. Take a /r/all post that is anti trump and read the comments about republicans, they hate them.

Perhaps. But admins won't ban a sub for being conservative or voting for Trump alone. Admins are the ones who can ban subs, not mods. Mods from there have absolute power, as long as they follow the above guidelines. As we know, the rules can be as petty as they want. Their only limit is that they can't ban someone who's never participated in a sub (so they can't pre-rmotively ban someone for existing)

/r/TheRealDonald was banned by admins.

Mods bots do ban you for participating in other subs. I was banned from a handful for posting in /r/JoeRogan

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mlrtime »

vkou wrote: post #925
mlrtime wrote: post #886

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Do you think all of /r/conservative is maga, what's your definition? Should reddit just be a place only for liberal politics?

> Should reddit just be a place only for liberal politics? I should be eating off golden plates and live in a house made of candy, and I shouldn't have to worry about the president's goon squad invading 'liberal antifa cities', or any of the other insane shit that's going on, but life isn't quite living up to my expectations at the moment. Perhaps when they open up their safe spaces and behave in a civil manner, othe…

You're. having a conversation with a made up person in your head. Sorry that happened to you. There are so many things in this reply that I have not said or don't think that must be my only conclusion. I'm quite confident that if we had this conversation in person it wouldn't derail so quick, or at least I would hope so.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mlrtime »

noir_lord wrote: post #910
mlrtime wrote: post #885

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if /r/conservative is a sespool, what is /r/politics? You're just pointing out your bias.

Oh I’m definitely biased, I’m not a huge fan of quasi-fascist morons hiding behind a thin veneer of legitimacy while breaking the law, electing a sex offender, destroying every relationship with their foreign allies and engaging in hilariously blatant corruption. Nor am I fan of their voters/supporters. At this point if you don’t oppose them you implicitly support them, the normal rules no longer apply.

>At this point if you don’t oppose them you implicitly support them, the normal rules no longer apply.

^ The average far-left in a nutshell. You are either with us, or against us. There is no centralist.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by elevation »

safety1st wrote: post #226
neilv wrote: post #84

I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Reddit has a moderation problem, and it's a big one. They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform: https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-invites-c... Personally I believe I've seen more people in the past few years wish a politically motivated death on somebody else via Reddit, than I have anywhere else…

An acquaintance who used to be active on reddit watched an angry mob "dox" his long-time pseudonym (they found a real person by the same name) with instructions to harass his employer and calls for IRL assault. Shortly afterward, his account was permabanned and he was unable to create a new one from the same IP.

This wasn't just a reddit problem, Twitter had plenty of the same cancel campaigns.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by bawolff »

vkou wrote: post #853
bawolff wrote: post #833

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They say "It’s not a real subreddit". I think its reasonable to conclude that they at the very least disapprove of that behaviour To more precisely respond: "A eye for an eye leaves the world blind"

Someone disapproving of things isn't grounds for comparing it to a cycle of vengeance that leaves everyone blind. If you think there's a better set of global rules that reddit should adopt, that's a fair observation. But until it does, it's not fair to call out other subs for mirroring the rules of a problem sub. If it can behave that way, so can they. If it can exist as a safe space for MAGAs, the rest of us are fre…

> If it can behave

The thing about morality is its about how you "should" behave not how you "can" behave.

> If it can exist as a safe space for MAGAs, the rest of us are free to create a safe space from MAGAs.

If you think its a-ok when /r/conservative does it, then by all means sure. I mostly object to the hypocrisy here. The original comment found /r/conservative's mod policy objectionable. Either it should be ok for everyone or it should be ok for noone. The part i'm objecting to is the implicit idea that its ok when people you like do something but not ok when people you don't like do it.

As long as you apply your moral views consistently i'm fine with it, regardless of whatever they are.

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