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Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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> To combat malware and financial scams, Google

Not 75%, not 80% and not 90% but literal 100% of adds YouTube served me for a week were financial scams. It sounds to me the quickest way to fight it, is to make ad publishers finally take responsibility for taking part in crime.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#932
A little reminder about the GNU definition of free software and the four freedoms:

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#four-freedoms

Quote below:

The four essential freedoms

A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms: [1]

    The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
    The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
    The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2).
    The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you are in the US) third party that decides what you can or cannot do with it. Plus using GrapheneOS is less of an option every day, since banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want. Client-side "trust" means the provider owning th…

Other than depositing checks, I've always thought that phone bank apps are overrated. Banking is too serious for a phone- I'd rather do it on a real computer. I could fairly easily give up banking apps entirely.

In my case, the website is equal or superior to the app in every aspect except one: you cannot deposit scanned paper checks via the website, only via the app.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#934
Just like force pushing Manifest v3 on Chrome/Chromium, this is a step towards 'more security', from mouthpieces of Google.

Note that 'security' here is only for Google itself, for users it's an utterly different thing, e.g., inconvenience, censorship, etc..

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#935

Another instalment of HN thread where people try their best to pretend that "security" does not come with "enforced, ideally at hardware level, inability to run random code" for 99% of phone users. Here a tip: you won't solve the problem of security by just whining about corporate interests (which is a real concern) and NOT proposing a better solution that works for an average tech illiterate, very socially engineera…

Nothing about this prevents random code running.

You still need an app with far too many permissions to pay for parking. All this does and funnel that through the play store.

Guess what - play store is infested with malware. In fact, most malware comes from the play store. This fixes nothing.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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The funny thing is Stallman started his fight like half a century ago and on regular days Hacker News shits on him eating something off of his foot and not being polished and diplomatic, and loves practical aspects of Corporate Open Source and gratis goodies and doesn't particularly care about Free Software. On this day suddenly folks come out of the woodwork advocating for half baked measures to achieve what Stallma…

Stallman actively hurts the cause with his behaviour. I'm not only talking about his eccentricities, but also the adversarial and combative language. Yes, Amazon is trying to swindle us, but few people will be convinced of that when you start your argument by calling the kindle an "Amazon swindle" every time, directly implying that anyone who has one is an idiot or even malicious. Yes, it's unfair that someone can be…

Calling the kindle the "swindle" hurt open software?

Listen to yourself.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you are in the US) third party that decides what you can or cannot do with it. Plus using GrapheneOS is less of an option every day, since banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want. Client-side "trust" means the provider owning th…

Other than depositing checks, I've always thought that phone bank apps are overrated. Banking is too serious for a phone- I'd rather do it on a real computer. I could fairly easily give up banking apps entirely.

Web channel traffic is typically a tiny fraction of mobile traffic for banks. In some banks its like single digit share.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#939
From the article:

  In Brazil, the Brazilian Federation of Banks (FEBRABAN) sees it as a “significant advancement in protecting users and encouraging accountability.”
Brazilian government right now is pushing hard to destroy any kind of freedom in social networks, so take this with (really big) grain of salt.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you are in the US) third party that decides what you can or cannot do with it. Plus using GrapheneOS is less of an option every day, since banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want. Client-side "trust" means the provider owning th…

> Maybe it's time for a third large phone OS [...]. Apple and Google conspired to never allow that to happen. They've pushed Microsoft out of that sector. Microsoft! Name a bigger challenger.

GNU/Linux phones already exist, although they're indeed being harmed by the duopoly.
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