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U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by aiisjustanif »

rich_sasha wrote: post #478
tptacek wrote: post #23

I think Netanyahu belongs in prison, and Trump, the less said the better, but: couldn't have happened to a nicer unauthorized weapons-grade uranium enrichment facility dug into the side of a mountain hours outside of population centers. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reading up on the GBU-57 "bunker buster" bomb, because it is some Merrie Melodies Acme brand munitions. It's deliberately as heavy as they c…

> unauthorized It's a weird one. I don't disagree with your post, still, what is "approved" nukes? A bunch of countries got them, then decided that no one else is allowed them. Then Israel also got them, also "unauthorized", but countries who don't mind pretend they don't know. In the end there is no authorized and unauthorized nukes, only a calculus of power.

Treaties between nations, Iran signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty and would be in violation. [1]

In general many sanctions around nukes are based on many many treaties and the UN Office of Disarmament Affairs. [2]

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferat...

[2]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_disarmament

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by justinbaker84 »

athrowaway3z wrote: post #932

Be warned the false dichotomy between whether this is a good or bad. It lets proponents use more arguments than they should. The relevant question is: Why was it necessary to bomb Iran right now?

I predict a false flag cyber attack on the US that is supposed to whip us into a frenzy for war in Iran.

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by tartuffe78 »

HellDunkel wrote: post #682
artoghrul wrote: post #622

The military industrial complex always wins in the US, even if the whole reason why you get elected is because you were against it. A majestic mockery of democracy.

There is more to be said about the voters than about the military industrial complex here.

The two party system has captured the government, we voters have no recourse at the polling booths.

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by jopsen »

totetsu wrote: post #543

And meanwhile the biggest threat to all our security, the climate crisis goes unaddressed.

What are you talking about this will make oil price spike, best thing you could do to support the green transition :)

Joking ofc, but any oil price spike will have more impact that policy changes at this point.

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by didntknowyou »

athrowaway3z wrote: post #932

Be warned the false dichotomy between whether this is a good or bad. It lets proponents use more arguments than they should. The relevant question is: Why was it necessary to bomb Iran right now?

that's a loaded question, as if everyone had agreed bombing was needed at any stage

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by didntknowyou »

tptacek wrote: post #23

I think Netanyahu belongs in prison, and Trump, the less said the better, but: couldn't have happened to a nicer unauthorized weapons-grade uranium enrichment facility dug into the side of a mountain hours outside of population centers. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reading up on the GBU-57 "bunker buster" bomb, because it is some Merrie Melodies Acme brand munitions. It's deliberately as heavy as they c…

unathorized? they have let more nuclear inspectors into their country than israel. just because you don't agree with them having something doesn't mean you can bomb them.

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by ReptileMan »

sanderjd wrote: post #916
Ciantic wrote: post #659

The only way out of this in the long term is via negotiations. The US and Israel were lucky that Iran built their Fordow plant only 50 meters underground. What will the US do when Iran rebuilds it far deeper? They have a coal mine going 1200 meters deep. Iran is technologically far more capable than North Korea, which ultimately succeeded in building the bomb. The US knows this and wouldn't have started this war if I…

I think it is fantasy to think we can ever get back to a point where we're seen as a credible negotiating partner, after the events of the past decade.

i don't know. I am fairly sure that - you have 60 days to make a deal or we will bomb the shit out of you. And then on the 62nd day bombing the shit from their crown jewels makes the US pretty credible negotiator.

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by ReptileMan »

cced wrote: post #813
Ciantic wrote: post #659

The only way out of this in the long term is via negotiations. The US and Israel were lucky that Iran built their Fordow plant only 50 meters underground. What will the US do when Iran rebuilds it far deeper? They have a coal mine going 1200 meters deep. Iran is technologically far more capable than North Korea, which ultimately succeeded in building the bomb. The US knows this and wouldn't have started this war if I…

How do you negotiate with a country(ies?) that blows up your chief negotiators?

Carefully and with submissiveness.
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