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Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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I feel sorry for Apple users who advocate for a more open ecosystem as they are always met with outright hostility and told they should stop using Apple. As if you don't deserve to use Apple hardware if you don't agree with everything that Apple does.

Ironically, I’ve read through many of the top comments and although there are many different opinions, I hadn’t seen any that came across as hostile until I read your comment.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Yet Apple is fine letting users browse Safari with an unfiltered internet. If their APIs can't facilitate safe permissions for user data, maybe they need to re-configure their security model to look more like the Mac. UNIX solved this decades ago.

I wasn't aware safari allowed unfettered access to my phone and provided that to completely untrustworthy web apps and javascript. You have a source for this information? Would love to read more.

I wasn't aware that Apple could design a privacy model that doesn't depend on their direct curation. If Safari, iMessage and YouTube are acceptable services, why is an alternative App Store not?

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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It doesn't have to be the worst possible implementation to be less desirable than the walled garden for me. I get so much spam in whatsapp, groupMe, telegram, and from sms. Some of it is even from legitimate contacts but then they signed up for something or did something and it sends one of those stupid "join me on {thing}" messages. The only place I don't get spam is imessage

I get spam on iMessage, and you can continue to live in the walled garden, nobody wants to force you to buy a third party watch, they just want third party devices to have the same API access as the first party device.

The walled garden is not a walled garden if everyone else has doors in.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Like with headphones. Only AirPods and Beats (owned by Apple) headphones can use their proprietary extensions on top of Bluetooth for improved pairing or better headset-mode quality. Then they removed the jack to wipe out the rest.

So then why did almost all other major smartphone brands follow Apple's lead in removing the headphone jack?

To sell their equivalents of AirPods. Apple brings in $18B yearly revenue from that and locks in users more, big win for them.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Some other companies with similar market share: - Coca Cola - DoorDash - Adobe - Tesla - Canon digital cameras I guess we should break all them up too.

If they abuse their market dominance, we absolutely should.

Please precisely quantify how none of these companies do that except Apple.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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> moving a message over BLE to untrusted hardware and worse accepting them back into iMessage is a massive, massive change in the security boundary Anyone can already screenshot iMessages and move them out of the "security boundary"... which btw doesn't exist much, as if you have any Mac connected to your iCloud account then those messages are being synced to an SQLite DB any process running under your user can acces…

> any process running under your user can access You will need to grant that app explicit Full Disk Access permissions in order for it to access that folder.

But remember, the whole premise of this discussion is that fools can be duped into clicking yes to anything, so scammers can talk your grandmother into granting an application that permission. In one case iPhones must not permit it because Apple cares very much, but in another MacOS permits it because it doesn't matter or something? Either way, Apple can do no wrong!

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

#937

> we have to publish the app on the iPhone appstore. Every update comes with the risk that a random app reviewer could make up some BS excuse and block the update. uhhh and if there wasn't any reviewing, every update would come with a risk of malware to the users.

App Store reviews does not reduce malware - things slip through Apple's review process all the time. The iOS security features such as the sandbox is what makes iOS safe to run third party apps.

Yes, but that opposing argument could be made, and it's better to have some gate than none, even if it allows everything by default. For example, apps that are found to be malicious could be revoked later.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Spammers sending spam through ble ?! They might just as well beat you up and take your wallet.

No, they would on their own phones automate sending spam to the iMessage network using ble at the interface.

Regardless, they would need to be a few meters from you (spec says very generous).

If they are right next to you, there are many criminal activities more lucrative than sending an imessage...

...Which wouldn’t be possible anyway, because devices using ble to communicate typically require to be paired together by their owner.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

#939

The best decision I made was to switch to Linux Mint and Samsung Z Fold 6. I can't believe I was ever a fan of apple products. Hobbled walled garden products. If you're in tech you should not use apple products. Unless you're building an iphone app.

I've had iPhones since the 3GS and not once have I seen a convincing argument for why I should switch. I need my phone to make calls, send text messages, and to be a 2FA device. The secure "hobbled walled garden" you're talking about is a selling point.

1. i can install any apk i want

2. i can transfer files by just plugging in my phone to any usb

3. better battery, i can go to 0% plug in and in 30 seconds turn my phone on. on iphone i have to wait at least 30 minutes.

4. actual innovation in hardware like a foldable

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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I've never understood this Apple criticism (scherlocking). Someone built a search for your files, so it's not right for Apple to build a pretty key feature into the OS? There's a lot of fair criticisms of Apple, but they don't have to be absolutely first at everything or never enter the market.

Instead of copying the app, they could have just paid Karelia Software.

Did Karelia Software pay the writer of `find` to use the concept?
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