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Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by agys »

12ian34 wrote: post #908
agys wrote: post #776

Yeah, it’s been a while: - Music (the app, not the service): almost unusable UI/UX, sync problems, two search fields, etc. - Calendar is confusing, glitchy UI. - Mail is a disaster… even the simple search filter doesn’t deliver as expected. - Safari “Inspector”: will swallow async errors, unusable for development. - Control panel: messy, ugly and slow. - Spotlight: was good, doesn’t work so well anymore (web results,…

switch to spotify, proton cal, proton mail, firefox, raycast

I want a decent player that syncs with my phone, not a service (I buy my music on BandaCamp)… how hard is it? Also: most of the above were good at a certain point.

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Post by rottenapple25 »

My favorite iOS bug is opening a social media link say...Facebook, Instagram etc which displays a corresponding "Open in App" App Store banner which should take you to the app but almost always takes me to the App Store even if the app is already installed. Completely breaking deep-linking from the web.

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Post by stego-tech »

eliseomartelli wrote: post #716
stego-tech wrote: post #121

A good writeup of just a smaller subsection of my grievances with Apple under Cook's recent leadership: stellar hardware increasingly hobbled by bungled software. Funny enough, I had the exact issue the OP had with my M1 iPad and Notes, writing down Kubernetes coursework and notes by hand to try and make it "stick" better mentally (an entirely different post, someday) only for Notes to crash, losing most of my work s…

Author here, crashing is another issue I have with notes, but it's more sporadic. > Apple's kit is still lightyears better than an equivalent Windows 11/Android setup That's sadly true, but I think as users/power users we shouldn't settle for the "best of the worst", when it's clear that the direction of Apple software quality took a dramatic shift.

> ...we shouldn't settle for the "best of the worst"

That, right there, is general life advice more people need to hear.

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Post by kruuuder »

hbosch wrote: post #901
yalok wrote: post #685

This has been going on for years. I used to do a lot of iOS development, and have an eye for bugs. Almost every Apple app/service has been regressing in quality. Take basic functionality - a phone app (calling). After certain audio sessions use (calling via WhatsApp) I can’t make regular calls over cellular - the UI app immediately cancels the call. Only reboot helps. Or notes - for many years/iOS versions, they live…

>phone app I'm triggered. How many times have you reached for the 'end call' button, but the other person ended the call a moment earlier than you, and as you press down the screen immediately flips to your "recent calls" screen and you call a random person straight away? This is such a common and terrifying experience for me, and yet it's been the default UX on the Phone app since probably day 1.

This happened so often for me. But lo and behold, they fixed it. I recently installed iOS 18, and the phone app now prevents accidental touch input after the other person has ended the call. This took almost 18 years!

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Post by bpopson »

kazinator wrote: post #419

Apple has no decent solution for the issue of the cursor moving if you accidentally touch the touchpad while you're typing text (other than disabling the touchpad and using a mouse). Like they couldn't implement some heuristic that could be enabled in settings, to ignore touches that occur close to simultaneously with textual keystrokes. Several times a day, I'm typing, and suddenly, the cursor jumps in the middle of…

Glad to know this isn't just me. I thought I was going crazy.

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henry_viii wrote: post #721
yalok wrote: post #685

This has been going on for years. I used to do a lot of iOS development, and have an eye for bugs. Almost every Apple app/service has been regressing in quality. Take basic functionality - a phone app (calling). After certain audio sessions use (calling via WhatsApp) I can’t make regular calls over cellular - the UI app immediately cancels the call. Only reboot helps. Or notes - for many years/iOS versions, they live…

On Notes: 1. If you copy some text 2. Select other text 3. Paste the text you copied to replace the selected text Notes will crash. This has been known for years. Also if you turn off all suggestions in Spotlight on iOS and just use it as an app launcher, it will still take seconds for Spotlight to show you the results. For something that's supposed to be an indexed look up.

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Post by 12ian34 »

agys wrote: post #931
12ian34 wrote: post #908

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switch to spotify, proton cal, proton mail, firefox, raycast

I want a decent player that syncs with my phone, not a service (I buy my music on BandaCamp)… how hard is it? Also: most of the above were good at a certain point.

also big bandcamp fan here actually, since i make music. i wish the app was better. i am very sad about spotify as a company. still an improvement from apple music though.

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Post by hailt »

FredPret wrote: post #7

I would pay a premium for a system that never gets any new features except for bug & security patches. In fact, that's more or less what iOS was for a long time, and I loved every second of it. Once you have a good feature set, you can spend years and years ironing out 100% of the bugs and vulnerabilities and you'd build a rabid fanbase of crotchety tech-saturated users like me. I want something that Just Works.

I think the pressure to keep adding new features on a yearly basis is more likely to please the investors/shareholders rather than the users. As an user, I know what I expected to get when I purchase the device, and just want it continue provide the same functionality. Occasionally adding new features without impacting existing functionality is nice, but I’m completely happy with the device just keep doing what it does. On the other hand, the investors/shareholders are the ones who would expect the company to regularly come up with new products, new features, with the hope of driving business growth. With Apple’s stellar track record of growth (especially under Tim Cook), the pressure will only get more severe.

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Post by ElliotM »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #852
tallytarik wrote: post #778

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notes is so bad. Often copy and paste just breaks. It will copy some string of characters from a different part of the note than you selected, until you restart. Reminders too. For at least 5 years, creating multiple reminders in a certain order will not create multiple reminders, and will just append the text to the end of the first one. Surprise — hope you didn’t set any important reminders in that batch! And the g…

One of the weirdest regressions is basic search on iOS. Just clicking into the search screen takes 1s before I see anything (it's probably booting up internally). And each keypress sometimes seems to take another 1s before it updates the results. Sometimes 3s will pass before I even see anything after I've already typed in my search term (I'm always searching for a local app btw - it's how I open apps). It's like it…

Try disabling everything labeled “suggestion” in settings. This drove me crazy too and pretty much went away after I disabled Siri and safari suggestions.
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