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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by sneed_chucker »

elashri wrote: post #561
stackskipton wrote: post #233

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I think vast majority of Americans not going on to higher education is because system is so screwed up due to debt and unlimited student visas. Debt means most Americans go "I need to enter into the job market so I can pay off these debts". Also, alot of foreign students are willing to work/study insane hours because visa hanging over their head. I have a friend who got MS in Engineering but didn't want to continue b…

> I think vast majority of Americans not going on to higher education is because system is so screwed up due to debt and unlimited student visas. International students percentage is about 6% of total high education population [1]. We can say that their percentage in higher in some fields/degrees. But overall they are not significant reason High Education is not affordable. Actually for undergraduate (majority of int…

> International students percentage is about 6% of total high education population

It's much much higher in Postgraduate because it's a way to stay in the country without being employed

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by calculatte »

tgma wrote: post #502
scarface_74 wrote: post #492

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There are 4.8 million developers in the US most of them are not making Meta salaries and I would say that 80% will never see 200K inflation adjusted in thier lives. Instead of going to levels.fyi go to salary.com and choose any major city in the US that is not on the west coast. No most developers don’t get RSUs or anything else aside from their salaries and maybe a bonus. And before someone replies that I’m “bitter”…

You are actually proving my point. If there are 4.8 million developers who are not commanding Meta salaries, and they "pay well" it should be fairly straightforward to get labor. It's simple: the more picky you are the more you will have to pay. The GP admitted the upper bound of Meta, which is a company that is sustainably operating in the same country. If you cannot compete in a labor market, either raise your prod…

Given that Meta pays so well, why are they so dependent on H1B?

Or google? In 2023 they had a net elimination of 6576 US jobs, but added 5479 H1B.

This isn't a simple market issue, these companies are abusing worker visas to replace Americans from their own companies.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by crystal_revenge »

Spooky23 wrote: post #664
ponector wrote: post #450

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So many contradictions! You pay well, but not so much. You search for qualified applicants but can hire a student. You require linear algebra but ok with technical writer. Looks like your managers don't know who they need to hire or don't want to really hire.

Defense contractors are usually located in out of the way places. If you work for the USAF Lab in Rome, NY, you make less than a Facebook intern, but the only guy richer than you in town is the state trooper with overtime. They are also stable gigs with good benefits.

> but the only guy richer than you in town...

Or, you know, any tech worker with a remote job. The point is if you have technical skills and want to live in Rome, NY you can do that and still have a better job.

> They are also stable gigs with good benefits.

Maybe 30 years ago. Today the benefits don't compare to what you get in a large tech company and I think everyone one I know with a career in a DAPRA/Defense contractor job has eventually been laid off and struggled to find new work since it's generally challenging to transition out of that industry involuntarily.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by alecco »

m00x wrote: post #736
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

I do coding interviews 2-3x/week for a private, but large company. We do not lack candidates, but we lack qualified candidates. Most people that I interview have no clue how software actually works. Most are leetcode monkeys or just really awful. We mostly hire seniors because of the industry we're in, but we've started hiring interns and juniors due to the lack of decent candidates. We'd love to hire US candidates,…

The majority look for leetcode monkeys more than experience. I gave up applying because of that.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by [deleted] »

snakeyjake wrote: post #342
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by harvey9 »

exe34 wrote: post #828
Me001 wrote: post #570

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Defense morons should be a more common term. These guys have been given free money for generations in VA and can barely do anything other than suck cash from the government. I’m an American it’s disgraceful they are children compared to my Asian colleagues.

if they're getting free money, they're not morons! humans think we're the most intelligent because we built New York while the dolphins have just been hanging around having a good time. the dolphins think they're the most intelligent for the same reason.

I'm picturing a lot of corp execs boarding a spaceship and saying 'so long and thanks for all the tax breaks'

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by wklauss »

ponector wrote: post #450
snakeyjake wrote: post #342

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My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

So many contradictions! You pay well, but not so much. You search for qualified applicants but can hire a student. You require linear algebra but ok with technical writer. Looks like your managers don't know who they need to hire or don't want to really hire.

> You pay well, but not so much

Don't really see much of a contradiction. A good salary is not necessarily the highest salary.

> You require linear algebra but ok with technical writer.

I'm a tech writer but went to engineering school. While I assume it's not a fairly common situation, it's also not unheard of. The original comment seems to imply that they'll frown upon a candidate that will expect to be taught linear algebra at the workplace but will be ok with one that has only a basic grasp and it's willing to attend engineering school to improve.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by pavon »

pavon wrote: post #898
akira2501 wrote: post #154

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> has to go through a very length period Doesn't the bottom of this announcement describe a previous rule that was announced in January 2024 and then implemented in March 2024? Interesting that rules process was far more rapid than this one.

The announcement in January was the end of the process, not the start. Here is the timeline of that previous rule: 2021-02-02: President Biden issued Executive Order (E.O.) 14012[0] 2021-04-19: Request for Public Input begins[1] 2021-05-19: Request for Public Input ends[2] 2023-10-23: Notice of Proposed Rulemaking. Comment period begins[3] 2023-12-11: Comment period ends 2024-01-30: Final Rulemaking announced[4] 2024…

Also worth noting that today's rules, 89 FR 7456, and the previous one, 89 FR 103054, both derived from the same NPRM. Apparently, based on feedback they thought some parts of the rules needed more work than others and finalized them in two parts.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by 0xffff2 »

snakeyjake wrote: post #342
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

> No, you can't work remotely. You (even programmers!) have to touch the things we build in order to build them and nobody has an ISO certified clean room in their house.

This is just plain wrong. I'm wrapping up on a project where I wrote significant chunks of the flight software for a moon rover while being 99% remote. If you're requiring software engineers to be onsite regularly for non-cleared work, your process sucks, no exceptions.

ETA: By the way, I personally only went fully remote due to covid (although I moved away from the office and have no plans to return), but some of my coworkers have been remote for well over a decade, and this is a government agency. I've seen way better setups in private industry.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by sunshowers »

Cumpiler69 wrote: post #820
sunshowers wrote: post #200

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Education. Learning. Expertise. As Asimov pointed out, "[t]here is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been." American culture is profoundly anti-intellectual. Every Dunning-Kruger rando thinks they have something valuable to contribute to every discussion.

>American culture is profoundly anti-intellectual. Then why are US tech companies the most successful?

Mostly because of the foreigners, and the small portion of Americans that are pro-intellectual.
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