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What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by rKarpinski »

sfryxell wrote: post #287

Maaaan, The NYPD will take credit for oxygen. Right now their talking like they solved it. a "combination of old-school detective work and new age technology" it was an employee at McDonalds. McDonalds solved this crime. Like god intended.

Basically the same thing that happened with the rapist in June who kidnapped and raped two random middle schoolers in broad daylight. Prints & and DNA were in the system, he was living in an apartment NYC was paying for and people called into the tip line with his name. It wasn't NYPD, it was a guy working at a bodega who apprehended him 5 days later.

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Post by banannaise »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #829
agilob wrote: post #529

The wealth gap in 2012 US is larger than it was in pre-revolution France. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/us-inco...

How does a rich person existing affect me? Is it just because I'm jealous that I don't have a yacht and so I should try to overthrow the system that doesn't let me have a yacht? Even though I'll never get a yacht in any system? Can we look at the graph of wealth disparity of America versus other nations?

Because the existence of these people means that we concentrate economic resources toward building yachts that might otherwise be concentrated toward growing food or building homes.

Rational economic actors who produce goods and/or services will tend to supply what there is the most economic demand for (what brings them the most profit). If half the population has almost none of the money, then their needs have little economic demand behind them. So then what is the economic incentive to supply them with the things they need?

In other words, producing a hundred-million-dollar yacht is a hundred million dollars (less profit margin) that could have been invested toward a more collective good, thus increasing the supply of those goods, thus reducing their scarcity, thus reducing their price.

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Post by shishy »

navane wrote: post #574
gwd wrote: post #553

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> It seems he wanted to be found. I talked to someone personally who at some point had committed a series of crimes, and at some point they started doing things that were more and more likely to get them caught; they told me they thought to themselves, "What am I doing?" But they didn't stop, and eventually got caught. In a different story, a few years ago I dropped my wallet on the sidewalk outside my house, and som…

There's a decent book written about exactly this, Crime and Punishment, by one of those Russians. Pretty hilarious read too.

one of those Russians... lol

Fyodor Dostoyevsky

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Post by lr1970 »

dfxm12 wrote: post #736
rvba wrote: post #585

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Conspiracy theory below, so beware, I warned you. What are the odds that since case is high profile they probably used some grey area or illegal surveillance tool from their 3 letter agency friends and made up some story how a patron recognized him. Convinently guy also had a copy of all the incriminatint stuff with him. (In russia he would also have sims3). Since he talked on phone, they used some voice recognition…

Why stop there? Thompson was allegedly set to testify on some insider trading hearing while he knew about an anti-trust case before the public. Maybe those same TLAs found a guy with a grudge and nudged him up to take care of a witness who might testify to something they didn't want public, or maybe some of their superiors were just upset about the $25B in lost shareholder value in the whole situation.

> Maybe those same TLAs found a guy with a grudge and nudged him up to take care of a witness who might testify to something they didn't want public, or maybe some of their superiors were just upset about the $25B in lost shareholder value in the whole situation.

Since he got caught alive this theory does not look plausible. Those guys who were to hire him would make sure that he will not be talking to police.

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Post by Tryk »

fastball wrote: post #828
coryfklein wrote: post #635

You stand at the fork in the tracks. Pulling the lever will divert the train from a track with 10,000 people on it, to a track with 1 person on it. Do you pull the lever?

How exactly does killing a CEO save 10k people? Hint: it doesn't. In fact, the only result I can imagine from this is the opposite. After all, UHC will probably need to pay their CEO (if anyone takes the job) more for a while, to overcome the risk of being murdered. So if CEO pay meant fewer claims being paid out, after this they'll probably pay out even fewer.

Your argument is that the reason they were not paying out more claims is because they had to compensate their CEO?

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Post by mateus1 »

exabrial wrote: post #937

Absolutely senseless murder by a deranged human. I feel incredibly bad for the family and friends of the CEO, especially with all of the BS from Reddit/TikTok.

Are you sensitized by the death of thousands of people due to automated coverage deny systems he put in place?

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Post by CrimsonCape »

_yb2s wrote: post #694
kypro wrote: post #592

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I thought it was a joke when I saw the posts on the Reddit homepage celebrating the murder and even the murderer. Partly because I thought Redditors were above that type of thing, but also because I thought it was against their TOS. It's a real reminder of how little sympathy people can have about people who they consider the enemy or the "other". I'm almost certain nearly all of the people celebrating the murder bel…

This overall dynamic has become very concerning to me- people have sorted themselves into echo chambers online that dehumanize anyone not in their group- to the point of justifying murder for just for not being in their specific group. This has happened universally across the political and ideological spectrum. Parts of Reddit for example has a seething hatred for anyone elderly “boomers” and/or well off “billionaire…

This is a spot-on description. The locked-in banality seems to be the source of fuel for many issues people are taking offense with. Housing cost too much? Oh well. Food costs too much? Oh well. Medical costs too much? Oh well, etc. etc.

There doesn't seem to be many release valves other than "accept your fate" especially when you have seemingly little control over your own fate.

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Post by feoren »

benced wrote: post #869
benterix wrote: post #590

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> who actually lead pretty decent lives. It's because the whole image is fake. In theory everything is fine but you know there is something very bad about the healthcare system, and the power of an institution to decide about someone else's life or death is just one aspect of it; prices inflated beyond imagination is another one (these two are related). So we pretend to live normal lives but in the back of our head w…

You can leave! Nothing is stopping you from staying in the US. Particularly if you're on this website, you probably have talents other countries would like to acquire. The fact that you haven't says you don't believe what you say.

> Don't like it? GTFO out loser! Uproot your family, move away from everything you know, all your friends, and go take a chance in a completely different country. Just change everything about your life and stop trying to make anything ever better. Otherwise STFU about it!

- You

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