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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by yuvalr1 »

stanford_labrat wrote: post #929
apugoneappu wrote: post #895

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT does have an enterprise version. I've seen the enterprise version with a top-5 consulting company, and it answers from their global knowledgebase, cites references, and doesn't train on their data.

I recently (in the last month) asked ChatGPT to cite its sources for some scientific data. It gave me completely made up, entirely fabricated citations for academic papers that did not exist.

Did the model search the internet?

The behavior you're describing sounds like an older model behavior. When I ask for links to references these days, it searches the internet the gives me links to real papers that are often actually relevant and helpful.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by sethd »

josters wrote: post #510
pentagrama wrote: post #329

The argument of more compute power for this plan can be true, but this is also a pricing tactic known as the decoy effect or anchoring. Here's how it works: 1. A company introduces a high-priced option (the "decoy"), often not intended to be the best value for most customers. 2. This premium option makes the other plans seem like better deals in comparison, nudging customers toward the one the company actually wants…

This is also known as the Door-in-the-face technique[1] in social psychology. [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique

Wouldn’t this be an example of anchoring?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring_effect

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by magic_hamster »

danpalmer wrote: post #515
fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

The problem is that OpenAI don't really have the enterprise market at all. Their APIs are closer in that many companies are using them to power features in other software, primarily Microsoft, but they're not the ones providing end user value to enterprises with APIs. As for ChatGPT, it's a consumer tool, not an enterprise tool. It's not really integrated into an enterprises' existing toolset, it's not integrated int…

OpenAI's enterprise access is probably mostly happening through Azure. Azure has AI Services with access to OpenAI.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by the_clarence »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

You can use the emdash by writing dash twice -- it works in a surprising number of editors and rendering engines

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by Dowwie »

I began responding to this announcement with something along the lines of what I could achieve with $200/mo in platform services, training and managing my own agents, and it occurred to me that maybe that's exactly what I ought to do. Has anyone else come to this conclusion? It's not a question of whether the $2400/yr is ridiculous but that maybe if someone can afford to spend that much right now and knows how to achieve the goal (or can figure it out), this is the time to do so.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by SkyBelow »

fragmede wrote: post #772
ganzuul wrote: post #770

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are people like that. We don't know what's up with them.

It's pretty easy to explain. You see, they're unable to produce a response that isn't in their training data. They're stochastic parrots.

They extract concepts from their training data and can combine concepts to produce output that isn't part of their training set, but they do require those concepts to be in their training data. So you can ask them to make a picture of your favorite character fighting mecha on an alien planet and it will produce a new image, as long as your favorite character is in their training set. But the extent it imagines an alien planet or what counts as mecha is limited by the input it is trained on, which is where a human artist can provide much more creativity.

You can also expand it by adding in more concepts to better specify things. For example you can specify the mecha look like alphabet characters while the alien planet expresses the randomness of prime numbers and that might influence the AI to produce a more unique image as you are now getting into really weird combinations of concepts (and combinations that might actually make no sense if you think too much about them), but you also greatly increase the chance of getting trash output as the AI can no longer map the feature space back to an image that mirrors anything like what a human would interpret as having a similar feature space.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by throwup238 »

paradite wrote: post #764
EcommerceFlow wrote: post #391

After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to use API and 3rd party UI if usage limit is your concern?

I was using aider last night and ran up a $10 bill within two hours using o1 as the architect and Sonnet as the editor. It’s really easy to blow through $200 a month and o1-pro isn’t available in the API as far as I can tell.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

yosito wrote: post #99
ta_1138 wrote: post #67

There are many use cases for which the price can go even higher. I look at recent interactions with people that were working at an interview mill: Multiple people in a boiler room interviewing for companies all day long, with a computer set up so that our audio was being piped to o1. They had a reasonable prompt to remove many chatbot-ism, and make it provide answers that seem people-like: We were 100% interviewing t…

So, wait a minute, when interviewing candidates, you're making them invest their valuable time talking to an AI interviewer, and not even disclosing to them that they aren't even talking to a real human? That seems highly unethical to me, yet not even slightly surprising. My question is, what variables are being optimized for here? It's certainly not about efficiently matching people with jobs, it seems to be more ab…

>> My question is, what variables are being optimized for here?

The ones that start with a "$".

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by anticensor »

fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

They have a third clock: schools and employers that try to forbid its use.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by s1mon »

andrewstuart wrote: post #828
s1mon wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet that's not the only thing that doesn't work well on a 10 year old phone that hasn't had OS support since 2019.

Actually all websites work fine. The problem is OpenAIs HTML.

You've tested all the websites in the world? That must keep you busy.
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