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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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post #609

I think a lot of people forgot that before Covid hit, Trump was headed for a fairly routine reelection. Many people thought he was doing a solid job, especially on the economy. All American elections still come down to the James Carville truism, “It’s the economy, stupid!” Despite what the official metrics or stock market says, we’ve been in a “vibesession” due to inflation and elevated interest rates. Anecdotally, I…

No it wasn't obvious that Trump was headed to a routine reelection. In 2019, the sense was the economy was slowing down. If not for the tariffs on Chinese goods, the normal business cycle had it that a recession was coming in 2020.

Trump publicly pressured the Federal Reserve to keep interest rates low so he could campaign on the economy.

Had he not intervened inflation probably wouldn't have been so high in the years to follow.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/11/business/economy/bonehead...

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#932
Since the Citizens United decision the USA is a defacto oligarchy. Politicians are no longer beholden to the whims of the people, only the donors. The Supreme Court decreed that money is speech, therefore the more money you have, the more speech you have, and the more speech you have, the louder your voice. Herein lies the proof, and the lesson.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#933
post #932

Since the Citizens United decision the USA is a defacto oligarchy. Politicians are no longer beholden to the whims of the people, only the donors. The Supreme Court decreed that money is speech, therefore the more money you have, the more speech you have, and the more speech you have, the louder your voice. Herein lies the proof, and the lesson.

Kamala Harris far outspent and outraised Trump this election.

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/31/democrats-republicans-ad-sp...

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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post #932

Since the Citizens United decision the USA is a defacto oligarchy. Politicians are no longer beholden to the whims of the people, only the donors. The Supreme Court decreed that money is speech, therefore the more money you have, the more speech you have, and the more speech you have, the louder your voice. Herein lies the proof, and the lesson.

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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#935
post #910

US politics isn't easy to understand as an outsider. It looks like Harris was was an ok candidate for the core democrat voter and a terrible candidate to win a populist election in what is essentially a deeply divided and mostly conservative country. She didn't address the swing voters greatest concerns which was their decline in real wealth due to inflation and fear of change. I am sure money and influence had a lot…

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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#936
post #751

incumbents all around the world have performed terribly post COVID. UK, Canada, Japan, France, Italy, have all had landslide or shocking election results. Unsure what the general mood is that can lead to Keir Starmer dropping 30 points in approval months after winning in a landslide, but the mood of general discontent may be relevant in the United States as well. It seems whatever the status quo / incumbent advantage…

> after winning in a landslide

He got like 30% of the vote, the opposite of "a landslide."

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#939

My theory: people are just hacked off that life is getting worse for most people while billionaires get richer and richer. Every disaster the wealthy get handouts while the poor have to pay for them. Government can no longer afford anything because all of its assets have been sold and rented back at a profit. I don’t think either campaign made any difference to the outcome of this election at all. In conclusion it mi…

And who do you think has been in charge of that corruption?

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#940
post #751

incumbents all around the world have performed terribly post COVID. UK, Canada, Japan, France, Italy, have all had landslide or shocking election results. Unsure what the general mood is that can lead to Keir Starmer dropping 30 points in approval months after winning in a landslide, but the mood of general discontent may be relevant in the United States as well. It seems whatever the status quo / incumbent advantage…

Australia (2022) and New Zealand (2023) flipped definitively too, in their respective post-Covid elections. The discontent looks like a general pattern regardless of whether the pandemic-era incumbent was nominally "left" or "right".
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