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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by Terretta »

vertical91 wrote: post #919

To be honest, I think that after years of incremental updates apple has maxed out the number of "value" features. I don't see a strong reason why Apple has to come out with new features every year. Expecting ground-breaking new features every year is a bit crazy, unless there is a new breakthrough like solid state batteries. Like what's going to be there next year? Flush side buttons to make the phone thinner? Why no…

> groundbreaking

They need to put two Spatial Video cameras on the top right and top left of the phone in landscape, to record 3d video at or a bit wider than pupillary distance.

Given a way to watch them, Spatial Video memories "sell" the AVP and/or (if zoomed in) 3D TVs, and the perspective also gives fantastic clues to photo processing algos, 3D model generation, more.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

>The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user.

>She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion.

I recently had a similar realization. Last year I finally bit the bullet and decided to build out a decent 'home office' setup. I have a tendency to research something to death before I make a purchase. I read all about monitor resolution, viewing distance, field of view and viewing angle. I had multiple different calculators. I measured my typical sitting / viewing distance down to a fraction of an inch.

After doing all this, I initially thought surely, I needed a 32" 4k 144hz screen. Nothing else would do. Then at the last second after reading up on fractional scaling issues with linux, I decided on a 27" 1440p screen. It's fine.

It turns out I am not the discerning conesour of pixels I thought I was. Yes, I can see them if I look hard enough, but I don't really care. I should have known. The most productive I have ever been as a dev was as a teen coding away on a 800x600 crt!

Maybe I'll eventually get a 4k screen if I upgrade to a 5090 or whatever, but I have found that buying n-1 off the bleeding edge is the absolute sweet spot when it comes to capability.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by walterbell »

Terretta wrote: post #931
vertical91 wrote: post #919

To be honest, I think that after years of incremental updates apple has maxed out the number of "value" features. I don't see a strong reason why Apple has to come out with new features every year. Expecting ground-breaking new features every year is a bit crazy, unless there is a new breakthrough like solid state batteries. Like what's going to be there next year? Flush side buttons to make the phone thinner? Why no…

> groundbreaking They need to put two Spatial Video cameras on the top right and top left of the phone in landscape, to record 3d video at or a bit wider than pupillary distance. Given a way to watch them , Spatial Video memories "sell" the AVP and/or (if zoomed in) 3D TVs, and the perspective also gives fantastic clues to photo processing algos, 3D model generation, more.

Can footage from two iPhones be combined?

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by bschwindHN »

spike021 wrote: post #192
saurik wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people have to "upgrade" constantly? Shouldn't the iPhone get at least a little bit better every year, even if no one "upgrades"? I often use my devices for years until they break in some way, and then I get a new one... is it really so wrong that the 2024 model is only better in ways you don't care about from the 2023 model?

My personal upgrade cycle has been every 4 or so years for the last few iPhones. You really don't need to upgrade more often. I'm on a 12 Pro and I only want to upgrade to get more memory and faster processors. My current phone easily pages apps out of memory too often these days and it gets a bit tiring. Also, I already replaced the battery once after 1.5 years and the current battery is already back to about the sa…

I'm on the original SE and it still works completely fine for what I need it for. Literally haven't bought a new phone since January 2017.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by sholladay »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Sounds like she would love the new camera control.

AI is also normie feature. A big one. Say what you will about its limitations and inadequacies but to a normie, GPT is a search engine with superpowers and an intuitive UI. Improved autocorrect and call screening, smart reply in Mail, transcripts and summaries for audio recordings in notes or from phone calls… these are all things normies will love. The technical crowd will dismiss them, afraid of inaccuracy or the model hallucinating. To a normie, it’s just the computer being helpful with everyday tasks. The only real hurdle will be how simple the UI is. Some of these features will be easy to access, while others might not be obvious.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by bschwindHN »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #352
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

My last iPhone purchase was the original SE... which turned out to be the most highly-regarded iPhone of them all. It got smashed, so now I have to deal with all the regressions. No TouchID, no headphone jack, no SIM slot. Will I enjoy having a much better camera? Yep. But that won't do me any good while I can't listen to shit on the plane or in my cars... unless I carry an octopus of dongles everywhere, and none of…

Same here! Haven't smashed mine yet thankfully and it's still great in 2024. Except that everyone is making their software slower because that's how it goes.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by eigenvalue »

stephenitis wrote: post #788
eigenvalue wrote: post #433

I get so much utility from my iPhone that it’s worth many times what it costs to me. So I’ve been on the upgrade program since it came out and get the new model every year. I always look forward to getting the new phone, even though at this point the improvements are incremental. But it’s very much worth it to me just to get better looking videos and photos of my small children. And stuff like better battery life has…

I prefer having my old phone as an emergency backup.

Yeah, but I have my old iPhone X for that which is good enough for a backup.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by kemayo »

sureIy wrote: post #761
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

> - camera adds events to calendar! The state of the camera app pisses me off. It could do so much but it does so little. Why can’t I snap a picture of a written WiFi password to connect to WiFi? QRs are so 2008. Why can’t it fully parse a menu and show me what each dish might look like? It’s mind-boggling to me that with thousands of engineers on staff they produce so relatively little. Thousands!

> Why can’t I snap a picture of a written WiFi password to connect to WiFi?

You can actually do that, as of last year's iOS release. It's sort of a pain, but it's doable.

You need to be at the point where it's asking you for the WiFi password, tap the text field, choose "AutoFill", choose "scan text", and use the camera interface to pick the text.

This is extremely undiscoverable, no argument, but it is at least a system-wide standard for how to scan in arbitrary text when you have a text input. (They've picked "AutoFill" as the brand-name for all their get-text-from-somewhere-else features, so it also contains standard password-filling from apps.)

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by thr0w »

beretguy wrote: post #695
raydev wrote: post #424

For fun, revisit the iPhone 6 announcement thread on HN[1], coincidentally posted 10 years ago today. I love going back to these to see how people responded. The more things change... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8292029

A lot of people complaining how big the iPhone 6 generation is. I’ll continue using my SE 1st Gen with 4 inch screen for as long as I can.

> I’ll continue using my SE 1st Gen with 4 inch screen for as long as I can.

I held on for so long, but even with a healthy battery, modern apps just crush it. I'd open Uber and go from 100% to 60% by the time my ride arrived. Caved and bought the new SE and mostly hate it in all its giant rounded slipperiness.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by sharpshadow »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #742

I really hope next year they bring back Touch ID and throw it on the action or camera button. I’m using my action button, I like being able to assign it to ProCamera, but it’s not as useful as it could be. I miss Touch ID. I’m not sure why but Face ID fails for me quite often. Maybe 25% of the time. I have to make a real effort to ensure it works. Straighten out my glasses, hold the phone up and look straight into th…

I don’t know how it is now but when I was holding the locked iPhone 12 or so of a friend infront of my face I got a tingle feeling inside my forehead. Did anyone experience that?
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