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> most of the rest of the world has fine relations with Cuba Most of the rest of the world didn't get Soviet nuclear missiles pointed at them by Cuba.
This is 60 years ago... In that same timeframe the EU was formed and grown to 26 nations including roughly 10 that pointed nuclear missiles at each other one time.
10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
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#932Earlier quoted context omitted.
What time was that? There aren't even ten nations in the EU with nuclear weapons.
Just like Cuba didn't really itself point missiles towards the US (it was the soviets), the Warsaw pact nations inside current EU were used as Soviet proxies too.
Not only did Cuba allow for missiles to be there, Castro specifically argued to use them.
https://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/23/opinion/castro-wanted-a-n...
Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
#933I'm one of them, the Cuban dictatorship has gotten worse over years and more brutal, the cuban government is the enemy of its own people and asphyxiates any piece of freedom we have there. Is not the U.S or any other country but pure malice of the government that do not want to give up the power and sacrifices a whole country if necessary to remain there. The amount of ignorance (bought the dictatorship propaganda) a…
And BTW is not the 10% only, is around the 20%, close to 2 million cuban's has left in this last 2 years. Everyone is escaping that sinking ship. The government is fully militarized and even complaining about your kid's food can land you in jail for 10 years.
Given the low birth rate of cuba, it's going to create a havoc in the age pyramid. How can a country survive this kind of change?
Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
#934In southern europe we call this "Brain drain". It's a global phenomenon it seems, freedom of movement leads to contentration of productive forces to a few global cities, while the rest of the planet is increasingly deserted
Where do southern Europeans go? In Canada most go to the US.
Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
#935Earlier quoted context omitted.
That stopped being true 70 years ago, and it was the withdrawal of American aid that brought Castro to power (he still pretended to care about human rights then).
"Aid" is a bit of an understatement considering that Castro was fighting against the US-and mafia-backed dictator (Fulgencio Batista). The withdrawal of American support to Batista happened because the corruption and violence had reached unsustainable levels even for an anti-communist.
I did put "help" in quotes on purpose...
Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
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The people who really care are Cuban exiles around Miami. When Florida was a swing state, that was enough to make every presidential candidate be pro embargo. Now that Florida is a red state, it might be different.
The Cuban population of Miami is heavily republican and pro-embargo. This is why Obama got rid of it and Trump reinstated it.
Cuban exiles are about 50/50 on embargo. It’s been around a while, and obviously isn’t changing the regime. Making people poor doesn’t bring democracy.
Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
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> After spending a couple weeks in Cuba it’s not hard to see why. Which is the consequence of being sanctioned into oblivion for decades by the global hegemon, much to the dislike of the entire rest of the world.
The US has been the the only major country sanctioning Cuba for a decade and a half, but the economy has only gotten worse. Sanctions may explain why they has lagged behind in tech. It doesn't explain why Cuba needs to import 70-80% of their food despite being a fertile tropical paradise. https://www.wfpusa.org/countries/cuba/#:~:text=Cuba%20import... .
In Cuba, the only wealthy people are government bureaucrats. As always, communism becomes dictatorship and the people suffer most. Top down control of economy doesn't work. I went to numerous tobacco plantations in Cuba and they told me the government takes 90% of their harvest and they're allowed to keep and sell 10%. I stayed with an OBGyn who gets paid $80 USD/month. He built his house out of cinderblocks. That's how you get rewarded for your 'free' education. Anyone glorifying communism is a fucking idiot with no life experience.
Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
#938Understandable. The US Empire's brutal economic sanctions have been asphyxiating the Republic for so long, I really can't blame them.
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#939Earlier quoted context omitted.
> US elections are structured such that dumb stuff like a relatively small—but loud—and also hopeless interest I can tell you, not just the US. See: farmers having an absolute chokehold on the EU despite virtually everyone hating them, and them only being a tiny percentage of population, votes or GDP.
Off topic but, I am curious, why would people hate the people that produce their food? Seems like a footgun position to take.
Usually problems vis-a-vis farmers come from farmers being exalted just like you're doing, so politically they've been given a lot of leeway for government subsidies and entitlements. There are many farmers who struggle making a living on limited land, even with subsidies. But in other professions, there wouldn't be those subsidies and that specific job wouldn't be economically viable. But there are also many other farmers with $10m+ properties and paying meager farmhand wages to those doing the actual work, while the farmer landowner gets the million dollar subsidies paying them to dump milk or grow wasteful corn fuel.
Essentially, it's because producing food doesn't give you the right to be pampered by everyone else and make economically bad decisions.
In Europe specifically, it would be in part because of the "tractor protests" where tractors were mass driven into city centers in protest, especially the Netherlands because they didn't like being restricted on nitrogen pollution. It would be especially irksome when you can get most peoples' votes for bad policy just by saying "support farmers, they grow your food." Except that all that nitrogen in the Netherlands goes to actually growing exported food ($$)...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/16/nitrogen...
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When is the last time the US sanctioned a foreign company for trading with Cuba? Has it ever happened?
It happens all the time. https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/canada-furious-with-u-s-... https://www.thecasecentre.org/products/view?id=70853
All the time? Both of those are from 1996.
It seems the US in 1996-97 barred executives from at least two other companies doing business with Cuba from entering the US. I can’t seem to find any information about them having financial sanctions against them however.