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OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by wkat4242 »

gg82 wrote: post #920
wkat4242 wrote: post #548

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I think it sounds overly enthusiastic though, to the point that it sounds fake. Very overacted and dramatic. I wouldn't want to chat with that voice. Though admittedly, so does Johansson in "Her". I don't think the voices are very similar but the style is.

Just imagine, if these voice chatbots get popular... they will likely change how people talk!

I think at the moment it's the opposite: It seems based on how many celebrities talk. When we watch them on TV, youtube, tiktok whatever they're not real people but just playing a role. It's not how they really are in their real life. The overacted enthusiasm is like a marketing tool.

As people tend to look up at celebrities and admire them they start associating this with good things and I think this is why they adopted such styles for chatbots.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by Repulsion9513 »

kamaal wrote: post #922
Repulsion9513 wrote: post #913

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I'm not sure what RMS has to do with Altman. I'm also not sure why you think people just want to hate on Musk when it took a decade of his blatant lies for most people to catch on to the fact that he's a conman (remember, everyone loved him and Tesla for the first 5 or 10 years of lies). But the comparison between Musk and Altman is pretty apt, good job there.

Well not sure what you mean by 'Conman'. Wildly successful people do aim high a lot, a lot. They don't meet 80% of their goals, that is perfectly ok. Even as low as 20% success on a lot of these moonshot things sets you ahead of the masses who aim very low and get there 100% of the times. This whole idea that some one has to comply to your idea of how one must set goals, and get there is something other people have n…

It's not aiming high when anyone competent and informed can tell him there's no way, and he pays many competent and informed people to tell him.

He can set all the goals he wants. Setting a goal is not the same as telling people the company that you are dictator of is going to do something.

He's not setting goals, he is marketing, and he does it very well.

As far as how he's a conman https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40462194 although you already know that full well so you'll continue thinking he's some sort of hero.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by contrarian1234 »

lchengify wrote: post #26
jrockway wrote: post #10

I was perusing some Simpsons clips this afternoon and came across a story to the effect of "So and so didn't want to play himself, so Dan Castellaneta did the voice." It's a good impression and people didn't seem very upset about that. I am not sure how this is different. (Apparently this particular "impression" predates the Her character, so it's even easier to not be mad about. It's just a coincidence. They weren't…

> I was perusing some Simpsons clips this afternoon and came across a story to the effect of "So and so didn't want to play himself, so Dan Castellaneta did the voice." IANAL, but parody and criticism are covered under Fair Use doctrine for Copyright law in the United States [1]. The Simpsons generally falls into that category, which is why they rarely get into trouble. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

The current system where you're allowed to "exploit" other people's image, but only if it's parody seems like a bit of an absurd loophole. Arnold as president in the Simpsons is okay, but Arnold as AI generated president in an action movie - suddenly not okay

Both arguably contributing the same minuscule amount to the "public discourse"..

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by CRConrad »

beeboobaa3 wrote: post #542
skilled wrote: post #18

The thing that worried me initially was that: - the original report by Scarlett said she was approached months ago, and then two days prior to launch of GPT-4o she was approached again Because of the above, my immediate assumption was that OpenAI definitely did her dirty. But this report from WaPo debunks at least some of it, because the records they have seen show that the voice actor was contacted months in advance…

Is it a crime for voice actors to sound similar to, say, Darth Vader?

ITYM

> Is it a crime for voice actors to sound similar to, say, James Earl Jones?

And the answer is, of course: It depends. For one thing, it depends on whether the company using the sound-alike's voice are in a business closely related to the theme of Star Wars, and whether they market whatever it is they're marketing by referring to Jones' iconic performance as Vader. (" ... ") If they do that, then yes, it most likely is.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by CRConrad »

ComplexSystems wrote: post #225
taytus wrote: post #186

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What about the back and forth trying to hire her, and she refusing? Sounds like: "Eh nevermind, we are going to use it anyway and BTW, I'm going to tweet 'HER' " You don't think that will have no weight whatsoever in a lawsuit?

Not if they didn't actually use it, no.

But he DID tweet the ref to the movie, so that's settled.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by CRConrad »

Sebb767 wrote: post #250
blitzar wrote: post #215

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No she just has to do so without promoting it as having been done by Scarlett Johansson.

Except there wasn't any promotion. The only thing close would be Sams tweet, but this was not an official statement and could easily be explained to refer to the concept of voice assistants in general. The fact that SJ was contacted twice was actually publicized by SJ and not OpenAI.

> Except there wasn't any promotion. The only thing close would be Sams tweet,

Yeah, that's promotion.

> but this was not an official statement

Yes of course it was. That's what being a CEO fricking means.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by CRConrad »

rowanG077 wrote: post #219
column wrote: post #191

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If it's a sequel and Brad Pitt was in the first movie and you use trickery to make people think he's in the second movie, there's a case. See Crispin Glover, the dad from Back to the future, which was NOT the upside-down dad in BTTF2. They settled for 760k USD.

Openai never claimed it was Scarlett Johansson though. They didn't trick anyone.

Not explicitly, no. They just heavily implied it.

Typical sleazy open AI / Sam Altman behaviour, AFAICS.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Post by CRConrad »

LewisVerstappen wrote: post #349
shiandow wrote: post #188

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I mean clearly having Scarlett Johansson on board was plan A. Bringing the voice offline and then revealing it was a recording of someone else who coincidentally sounded exactly the same is definitely plan B or C though. I don't understand how you can trust OpenAI so much to think it was all an accident.

Read what I said again

I did, and it still doesn't make sense. Now what?
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