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Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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No, the product is simply much better. If you pay $2000 for an Apple laptop vs. a PC running Windows or Linux, the Apple laptop will have twice the battery life and be in better physical condition after 3 years of equivalent use.

False.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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If you need Windows programs for your work, or need the ports, or want to play games, that kinda answers the question. The Mac laptops are otherwise just better for most people. And the often-repeated "every user is different" is not really true; most people fit the mold.

>most people fit the mold. Which mould though? I'd say most fit the Windows mould, but I'm guessing you mean the Apple mould.

I mean that most people who buy laptops fit the mold of needing web browsing, email, documents, and maybe file management. They can solve that with Windows, Mac, or maybe even Chromebook. There isn't usually a reason they need one in particular, the Mac just tends to be the nicest option, or the Chromebook if you're on a tight budget.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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> thread making absurd claims about 'apple is way better than everyone' based on nothing but anecdotal experiences... I'm not sure why you think "anecdotal experiences" are invalid when people are talking about a personal choice . I.e. I don't need some sort of double blinded study to "prove" Mac laptops are better. I've used other laptops, and I have a strong preference for Macs for a myriad of reasons that have not…

I didn't say anecdotal experiences are invalid. I said anecdotal experiences aren't a valid basis for the vast generalizations about 'macbooks are just much better than everything else' type fanboy comments.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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> I can't tell the difference between my new M1 Max MacBook Pro and the new M3 Max Macbook Pro I don't know why you bought a new one. You can have two ways to look at this, one way is your ultra pessimistic view, my view is I don't need to upgrade my laptop ever 2 years anymore. Before the M1 Max I was upgrading so often because intel macbooks sucked so much. Now I can comfortably say I'm keeping my M1 Max for a deca…

> Now I can comfortably say I'm keeping my M1 Max for a decade. That's a nice thought but the computer will probably lose security updates in the next 10 years. And that really annoys me. The press release says that the new computer is "built to last" and I'm sure that's true, physically. I have a 2015 Macbook Pro which works fine (obv. slower than a modern computer but fine for everything I need to do), it does stil…

My long-term plan is to drop a lot of money on external peripherals (monitor, speakers, etc) and then get the cheapest 16gb MacBook on sale to keep the portability option. Then I can upgrade to another cheap laptop as needed. I should’ve adopted this strategy originally.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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I don't like MacOS these days, I like the idea of being able to repair my computer if something breaks, and I want the option to at least attempt data recovery if I have a drive failure.

While I can sympathize with you, I'm not seeing myself repairing my MBA. It would be like trying to repair an F1 car. Not doable for the average person and even the constructor just swap the broken piece. I also backup everything important and encrypt the whole disk. I'd say the tradeoffs are worth it for the combination of lightness, quiet, performance, display and battery life I got. It's the perfect portable devic…

And backups seem a lot easier on Mac OS.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Recently got a ThinkPad T14s gen 4 with top-of-the-line AMD 7840U, 32GB RAM and 512GB SSD, for just a bit over $1k. It has very good build quality, is powerful yet quiet, and has decent battery life. It supports up to 4 displays. That's basically one of the best Windows laptops you can get. Of course, it does not have high-DPI mini LED screen, great speakers or 18 hours of battery life, but none of that really matter…

pls define decent battery life because for different people decent means different things. My biggest problem with windows laptops is battery life. My dell work laptop is spec't higher compared to my home m1 air but the ~4h battery life, worse trackpad and worse audio make it a worse experience overall...

You will not find a x86 machine that beats an Arm machine on battery life. 4h is bad for a windows laptop though. But if track pad and battery life is your thing, a Mac it is.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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This will sound slightly provocative but I genuinely wonder: why would anyone buy anything else than an apple laptop? Gaming? ideology? budget constraints? lack of familiarity with MacOS? They are marginally more expensive, but they also very easy to sell second-hand. I'm speculating that the monthly cost is on par with a PC.

Reasons for buying other laptop (at least for developers): 1. Better choice of desktop environment (KDE/GNOME vs OS X) 2. Wider/better selection of applications 3. Better development environment 4. Ease of deployment of your own apps 5. Better fit for your budget (why spend 3000 Euros on a limited set of features, when you can spend the same amount and get huge number of features/better features) 6. Capability to con…

There's no chance I use a Linux laptop again. The Mac will run all the open source type stuff out of the box most of the time, or if you're really deploying for Linux only then you use Docker anyway.

#2 is untrue unless you're installing Windows. #3, well somehow there's no iTerm2 equivalent on Linux, and the terminal emu is one thing you'll always use even when SSHing elsewhere. #6 is a serious point, though.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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> the air with non-sabotaged specs Anyone who says this has never used an 8/256 Air post-M1, and is complaining about them hypothetically. They're fine. They're fantastic computers. You can upgrade to 16/512, which puts the machine at $1500. This is $200 cheaper than a Dell XPS 14 16/512. "But the Dell has dedicated graphics" no it doesn't. "But, well, the Dell has a higher resolution display" no, its actually 1080p,…

Meanwhile, HP elitebook with current AMD chip, 2560xwhatever, 120Hz screen, 1TB of storage, 32GB of ram, both replaceable, 1200€. Comparable macs cost at least twice that, so color me highly unimpressed that twice the price gets you a nice machine.

An HP Elitebook 645 G10 with an AMD Ryzen 5, 1080p display, and 32gb of memory costs exactly $1,919 US Dollars. They're running a sale on the 830, so you could get that for only $100 more than an entry-level Macbook Air, but you'd get a much less powerful CPU, worse battery life, larger frame, and worse screen [1]

Again, I think a lot of people on here have this bubble-sense that laptops are cheaper than they actually are, because its been so long since we've bought laptops. Or something. Laptops are crazy expensive, all of them. And the degree to which Windows OEMs have fallen behind Apple in both pricing and performance is deeply concerning.

[1] https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mlp/laptops/elite-352503--1

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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I really wanted to love the 13" Air but two things made me switch to the Pro after trying it for a few weeks. One is that the internal speakers suck in comparison to the Pro. I 'm not looking for audiophile quality from laptop speakers, but the Pro speakers are good enough for casually watching youtube videos, TV shows, podcasts, etc, whereas the Air speakers are harsh and tinny. The second is that the default resolu…

Although I'm still using Air with M1 chip and still love. However, that resolution thing, totally annoys me :(

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Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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No, but Apple tends to have faster RAM (way more bandwidth), faster SSDs, and macOS tends to have a better memory compression algorithm.

> macOS tends to have a better memory compression algorithm Compared to what? Linux? Windows? Are there any published benchmarks anywhere, otherwise this just proves my point above. > Apple tends to have faster RAM (way more bandwidth), faster SSDs Yes, sure, due to its integrated nature, but that does not reduce the RAM requirement. My 8GB M1 MBA, which is used as a home browsing-only laptop, is almost always in yel…

But that’s what I said: My post starts with “no”. The other points in the “but” are all still true.

The RAM or SSD are specifically not faster because of its “integrated nature”. The RAM is faster because Apple engineered an actually wide bus + multiple channels for memory access. The fatter Macs have the equivalent of up to 8-channel memory, which not even server CPUs of the competition provide. The SSD gets easily 7 GB/s reads in my testing. Both Windows and Mac have a working memory compression algorithm and a sister post claims that it works better due to hardware acceleration, which I’m inclined to believe. Memory compression on Linux is a mess as you cannot keep compressed memory pages in physical RAM, instead forcing you to partition the memory and manually handling how much and what to put in compressed zram.

Low memory situations are thus handled better than on other operating systems. Memory and memory pressure are neglected concepts in the competition, both the hardware providers and operating system providers.

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